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Re: Protecting sensitive files on a Windows file server


From: "paul.johnson8 () gmail com" <paul.johnson8 () gmail com>
Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2006 09:53:54 +1000

PGP Netshare looks like a good solution.

We discovered with Office 2003, using the default Office 97/2000
compatible encryption type to protect the files, it is possible to
recover the passwords/data using software such as Elcomsoft Password
recovery (which can also break EFS) and online password/data recovery
services no matter how long the password or complexity in under 5
mins.

By changing the encryption type (using the Crypto API), we could
mitigate this but the files are still prone to brute force.  My
concern is that there are numerous solutions available to recover or
decrypt Office documents, we need to look at a more robust/proven
encryption technology.

The data we are looking to protect here is salary/personal information
(bank accounts #, addresses etc..).

How are others protecting this information in their place of work?

Interesting to see that Winzip creates unencrypted recoverable temp
files.  I will need to look into this further.

Thanks for the input.

On 21/06/06, Roger A. Grimes <roger () banneretcs com> wrote:
There are many great commercial solutions, like PGP Desktop, but EFS is
free and works well if you handle key archival seriously.

EFS works well, but it is not as eloquent as many of the other solutions
(don't forget TrueCrypt for a free solution). For example, EFS only
encrypts data while its stored on the hard drive, but the data is
decrypted (using EFS alone) when copied across the network or down to
other media. PGP Desktop, with NetShare, allows the files and keys to be
managed easier and to remain encrypted where ever they ended up (i.e.
USB key, CD-ROM, etc.); and with a single encryption key.

Office 2003 encryption isn't good encryption; easy to bypass.
Winzip leaves unencrypted recoverable temp files.

Just my one-half cent. I haven't tried the RSA solution.

Roger

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-----Original Message-----
From: paul.johnson8 () gmail com [mailto:paul.johnson8 () gmail com]
Sent: Monday, June 19, 2006 7:39 PM
To: security basics
Subject: Protecting sensitive files on a Windows file server

We are looking for a secure way to store very sensitive files on our
Windows servers.  The data is shared. We will turn on full auditing,
create hidden shares and a security group.

Which type of protection would be most suitable:

Office 2003 encryption
Windows EFS
Winzip 9.x encrypted archives
RSA SecurID Windows Agent (2 factor authentication) PGP Desktop Pro

Our concern with the Windows/Office encryption types is that it could be
cracked - ie. someone could get hold of the file and run some kind of
password recovery on the file and access the data.

Any ideas on how to approach this would be much appreciated.



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