Re: RE: ADS Password Storage Protection

[winshel () camden rutgers edu]

I've read and heard many sources say this same thing, i.e., that, for windows systems, length is stronger than short 
and complex.  And that a 15 character or longer password can be a real phrase and it will be a secure password.

I can see why a long password that consists of a real phrase - such as "frankly, my dear, I don't give a damn" - would 
be just as secure as an equally long complex password, in terms of protection against a brute force attack.

I don't know much about password cracking programs but am surprised that, while they would be working  on a brute force 
attack, they wouldn't be able to try a lot of commonly-used phrases at the same time.

If some password cracking programs can use a dictionary attack, couldn't there also be something called a passphrase 
attack?  Would it be difficult for a password cracker to digitize Bartlett's Book of Quotations and include that in an 
attack on a password? 

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