Re: deny access

[GuidoZ <uberguidoz () gmail com>]

> Everyone, I want to take this opportunity to apologize for Guido.
> Carlos, if you still need help, email me off the list, and we'll help
> get squared away.

I can certainly apologize for myself, when needed. ;) I wasn't trying
to be rude and not help, if that's what you're thinking. If that's the
case, then I do apologize. I was merely pointing out the fact that
sometimes it's better to TEACH a person then to TELL a person. Allow
me to explain...

I think it somewhat obvious Carlos has next to no expereince with this
device. This is nothing to be made fun of, as everyone starts
somewhere and I'm sure there are plenty of things he is quite familiar
with that I know nothing about. It's a fact of life.

Instead of just flat out answering his question and saying "type this
here", I believed he would benefit more from reading the manual for
it, learning how to use Google effectively to solve problems, and find
out more information in general. Think about it this way: What if he
has another problem that needs to be addressed immediately, but he has
no access because his router is down? Wouldn't of having a manual
(that he downloaded when I mentioned it) be helpful? Wouldn't it be
nice to be able to find the answer on your own because you learned how
to properly search on Google with focuses terms?

This isn't a flame by any means. I've always prided myself on helping
others... it's what makes me tick. Sometimes a little "tough love" is
what's needed. Judging from the other posts on this list, I figured
everyone else would also see what I did. I apologize for not
explaining it fully. To sum it up: "Give a man a fish, he eats for a
day. Teach a man to fish he eats for a lifetime."

I also offered my help off-list to Carlos. That offer still stands. I
just felt that it was better to have him try on his own first, then
ask a question when he gets stumped. (Instead of being completely lost
and just typing what he's been told. That's no way to learn and it
could very easily cause problems down the road... like when a BIG
problem happens and he hasn't a clue where to even turn.)

This applies to anyone, not just this scenario. Everyone should
realize that. It doesn't matter if your a book learner or a hands on
learner... either way the key is learning. Fundamental fact. =) If I
offended anyone, I certainyl apologize. I only hope the reasons for my
words are better understand, as there will be other occations where
one should take a step back and thing about just this topic before
flat out answering a question.

--
Peace. ~G


On Mon, 29 Nov 2004 22:10:41 -0600, richardw
<richardw () area52 allserve net> wrote:
> Everyone, I want to take this opportunity to apologize for Guido.
> Carlos, if you still need help, email me off the list, and we'll help
> get squared away.
>
> Saludos,
>
> Richard
>
> GuidoZ wrote:
> > This is why I said it was better for him to find the answers on his
> > own, and not just tell him the ACL format. Otherwise it's very likely
> > that something will get messed up and he won't be able to fix it, or
> > ask questions online. ;)
> >
> > Think about things before you act everyone. There is certainly nothing
> > wrong with helping out someone in need, although, you must determine
> > the correct level of help.
> >
> > --
> > Peace. ~G
> >
> >
> > On Thu, 25 Nov 2004 19:40:40 -0700, Carlos Garcia
> > <carlosg () cabonet net mx> wrote:
> >
> > > ok i just write
> > > access-list 101 deny ip host 216.212.33.185 any is this ok?
> > > i put too
> > > access-list 101 deny ip 216.212.33.185 255.255.255.255 any...
> > > and can somebody tell me how to improve this, i run some servers and i want
> > > to protec them
> > > mail, web,dns,proxy's where can i find a list so that it helps me how to
> > > configure the router to support QoS i need it for VoIP service??? thanks for
> > > all the help
> > >
> > > Atte.
> > > Carlos A. Garcia G.
> > > Cabonet Staff
> > > Tel (624) 14 30120
> > >
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Agarwal, Ankur" <Ankur.Agarwal () colt-telecom com>
> > > To: "'Carlos Garcia'" <carlosg () cabonet net mx>;
> > > <security-basics () securityfocus com>
> > > Sent: Thursday, November 25, 2004 7:17 PM
> > > Subject: RE: deny access
> > >
> > >
> > > > HI
> > > > Simply create an deny access list to block this IP.
> > > >
> > > > Access-list 101 deny ip source ip destination ip
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Thanks & Regards,
> > > >
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> > > > Ankur Agarwal
> > > >
> > > >
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> > >
> > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Carlos Garcia [mailto:carlosg () cabonet net mx]
> > > > Sent: 25 November 2004 04:58
> > > > To: security-basics () securityfocus com
> > > > Subject: deny access
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > newbie question how can i block this ip 216.212.33.185 i have a cisco 7200
> > > > this ip is trying to send mail with my server, i did not configure the
> > > > router so i dont know how to do this any help?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Atte.
> > > > Carlos A. Garcia G.
> > > > Cabonet Staff
> > > > Tel (624) 14 30120
> > > >
> > > >
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