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RE: help with forensics on a desktop computer
From: "Beauford, Jason" <jbeauford () EightInOnePet com>
Date: Fri, 12 Nov 2004 15:14:49 -0500
Your question is not well stated. I am figuring you are looking to catch the bad guy here? You want to monitor access to and from the PC at the person's house? There are so many keyloggers around that would do the trick. They'll write a file discretely to the HD. By the way, do you have a router in place at home? If not, you'll have MAJOR problems, especially if there was no ADMIN password set. Anyone could have connected to your registry remotely, enabled Remote Desktop (amongst other things), and connected at some off-peak time ie. 3:00 am. At which point you're toast. A router or firewall would have prevented the initial connection. To identify the offending IP, I would think that a good thing to do would be to toss a HUB between your Cable/DSL modem and your PC. Plug in your PC to 1 port on the HUB and then hook up another PC running some sort of packet sniffing software, ie. SNORT, WINDUP/ TCPDUMP or Ethereal. From there you can log ALL packets going in and out of your machine. There is a nice document on creating a receive-only cable here: http://www.dggomez.arrakis.es/secinf/roc/roc.pdf to be truly cautious. (GOOD THREAD http://www.theadamsfamily.net/~erek/snort/ro_cable_and_hubs.txt ) You probably don't want to allow the connections to the remote site to continue, so you could set up a honeypot or do egress filtering with any of the numerous firewalls out there, whether PC or Linux Based. Devil Linux, Coyote Linux are both floppy distros. Boot and Run type setups. If you have an old PC lying around, put in two nics, drop it after the Cable/DSL modem and before the hub and you have an instant firewall. Was this any help? JMB -----Original Message----- From: Undisclosed [mailto:private () somewhere com] Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2004 12:33 PM To: Security Basics[List] Subject: help with forensics on a desktop computer [reply address not given due to client's instance on confidentiality] Ok heres the skinny: an XP box (home edition) the client feels that it has been compromised from remote. The evidence for this they have gathered from Norton Tools (I am unfamilar with any logging feature though I do not use Norton Tools). I disabled remote desktop support in services and they called me and said again there is evidence of access from remote. Now, the location of the computer in their house is in a small secured room (access doesnt happen from anyone except the client from there [that they know of!]. Yes others live in the house. Question is there any effective free or inexpensive (under $100) that monitors access both local and from remote. Something that can be installed via administrative account and not detected by anyone else using the computer? Or tell me if I am dreaming but can be run from a floppy or a CDROM rather than installed? If I am on the right track maybe something that puts a log on the A: drive. Also, Is there any software which anyone might have put on it to compromise it from remote? I am aware of PCAnywhere and remote assistance (now disabled). Treat me like I'm six years old. All comments and answers appreciated. --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.792 / Virus Database: 536 - Release Date: 11/9/04
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- RE: help with forensics on a desktop computer dave kleiman (Nov 15)
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- RE: help with forensics on a desktop computer Beauford, Jason (Nov 15)
- RE: help with forensics on a desktop computer adisegna (Nov 15)
- RE: help with forensics on a desktop computer Jeff Gercken (Nov 15)
- RE: help with forensics on a desktop computer Horn Michael (Nov 16)
- Re: help with forensics on a desktop computer Josh Nerius (Nov 16)
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