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RE: A different question RE: Windows Remote Desktop


From: "Gunn, Jeff" <Jeff.Gunn () FMR COM>
Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2004 13:44:22 -0500

Dave - 

Can you give us the exact error?  Something I couldn't quite get from your
description below was if the remote users could log in okay, but got an
error when trying to sniff, or if they couldn't log in properly anymore.  If
the app itself is giving the error, then it still might be a permissions
issue; there are a few things that behaving differently between a console
session and a remote session (although usually it doesn't matter).

Unless you know exactly what your sniffer app is trying to do and how it's
trying to do it, they first thing I would do is grab a copy of the FileMon
and RegMon utilities from Sysinternals.com and run them while attempting the
operation.  These utilities will tell you is any kind of failure (file not
found, permission denied, etc) in accessing files or registry keys is
happening in the background.  It can be very enlightening.

-Jeff

-----Original Message-----
From: David Gillett [mailto:gillettdavid () fhda edu] 
Sent: Thursday, January 15, 2004 7:37 PM
To: security-basics () securityfocus com
Subject: A different question RE: Windows Remote Desktop

  We don't allow RDP to/from off-site locations, but we've
been using it to allow a couple of folks to, from their
office desktops, connect to strategically placed servers
to sniff specific network segments.
  This worked fine from sometime in September until the
Christmas/New Year's break, during which we had a scheduled
power shutdown.  Everything came back on after the shutdown,
and most boxes involved have been rebooted individually
since.
  But although sniffing still works fine from the server
console, RDP clients get a general-purpose error message 
that seems to indicate that they don't have the necessary
permissions, or there's some other kind of problem, with
the adapter that connects to the sniffed segment.

  Since sniffing from the console works, we know it's not an
adapter or port configuration issue, or a switch port issue.
Since several privileged accounts, including Administrator,
*can* sniff from the console but not from an RDP session,
we're convinced it's not an account privileges issue.
  And since it worked before the power shut-down, we know
it can be made to work.

  Has anyone who works more extensively with RDP seen anything
similar?  Or have you a useful theory that might help explain
what we're seeing?

Dave Gillett



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