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RE: AW: SUS Help


From: Jane Han <janehan22 () yahoo com>
Date: Wed, 24 Sep 2003 13:43:32 -0700 (PDT)

Hi, all

Does anybody use SUS to deploy patches to
Active/active clustered exchange servers? 

Any concern? Since I usually install patch on one node
while failovering this node's virtual server resources
to another node.

Thanks,

Jane

--- "Yoo, Gene" <Gene.Yoo () calbar ca gov> wrote:
Hey Jane,

Since the SUS doesn't control your workstation
environment, you would just get a log saying that it
didn't complete or something like that.  For
managing 2000/XP, I would recommend using GPO.  We
primarily use SUS for our server farm for logging,
etc...

Gene Yoo
System Operations Manager

-----Original Message-----
From: Jane Han [mailto:janehan22 () yahoo com] 
Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2003 7:21 AM
To: tim.warren () computerjobs com
Cc: security-basics () securityfocus com
Subject: Re: AW: SUS Help


Hi, all

If you set to automatic download and install at
3:00AM
option through group policy, what happen to
workstations that are shut down at 3:00AM?  In my
company, most people shut down their workstations. 
How will these workstations get all updated patches
from SUS server?

Thanks,


Jane


-----Original Message-----
From: Tim Warren
[mailto:tim.warren () computerjobs com]
Sent: Friday, September 12, 2003 8:18 AM
To: 'Markus Rossi';
security-basics () securityfocus com
Subject: RE: AW: SUS Help

The Sus App works extremely well, we have been
using
it with no I'll effects
for almost a year.  It was really meant for large
workstation installs and
we also use it for our testing servers, but not
the
web farm.  SUS has a
patch approval process by which the patch is
downloaded and waits for your
approval.  SUS by no means mitigates your
responsibility to stay on top of
patches and test them, it only helps roll them
out.
It also comes with a
multi-tier testing and approval design you can
implement if you so choose.
It's very flexible, has caused no errors and is
free
unlike RedHats version,
for which I subscribe because they have to earn
revenue anyway they can and
I don't want them going out of business or being
bought by IBM.  But, don't
use it or any other patching program on a
production
server, not that it
won't work, unless you're a gambler.

Tim W

-----Original Message-----
From: Markus Rossi
[mailto:securityfocus () familyrossi com]
Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2003 3:44 PM
To: security-basics () securityfocus com
Subject: Re: AW: SUS Help


Chris,

AFAIK HFNetChk should work with NT4 domains as
well
as AD. I've yet to
deploy it but it looks extremely promising. See
www.shavlik.com

Markus

Meidinger Chris wrote:

Hi guys,

i'm dealing with exactly the same problem, and i
can promise you there
is
*no* affordable option to automagically patch NT
boxes without scripting it
yourself. Which is what i will spend the next
week
doing.....

Cheers,

Chris

-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
Von: Roger A. Grimes [mailto:rogerg () cox net]
Gesendet: Donnerstag, 11. September 2003 03:40
An: Gooch, Linnie;
security-basics () securityfocus com
Betreff: RE: SUS Help


It doesn't work in NT environments.  SUS must be
installed on a W2K or
Server 2003 server, and the client must run the
Automatic Updates
service (which doesn't run on NT).

There are few options available when patching an
NT
environment.  Even
Win98 has more patch mgmt options.

Roger



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-----Original Message-----
From: Gooch, Linnie [mailto:Linnie () wescom org]
Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2003 8:28 PM
To: security-basics () securityfocus com
Subject: SUS Help


I've been reading everyone's input on SUS and I'm
trying to evaluate it
at my company. I want to know if anyone has
deployed it with an NT4
environment? We aren't moving to AD for another 3
months, but with the
blaster worm and other such vulnerabilities, I
want
to get it up and
running right away.

Here is what I'm looking for.

I'm reading the documentation for SUS, and it
talks
about setting the
registry on client machines, which is no problem,
but the documentation
is so unclear about what exactly I need to add to
the registry. I was
wondering if anyone knew exactly what registry
keys
needed to be added
or changed so I could test it right away.

Thanks guys. This list rocks!


Linnie Gooch, MCSE
Manager of Systems and Technology
Wescom Credit Union
(888) 493 7266 x 8801





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