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Re: Top IPS vendors - please read for invitation to Network World review.


From: Daniel Cid <danielcid () yahoo com br>
Date: Wed, 3 Sep 2003 10:21:08 -0300 (ART)

I agree with you. This kind of "IPS" is very dangerous
to use. I only make a comment that portsentry can
block using the route command. I never said that this
is a good solution :)

Daniel B. Cid

--- Scott Wimer <scottw () cylant com> escreveu: >
Forgive me for being callous, but this methodology
is just asking for 
problems.  If somebody portscans you from a spoofed
address: say your 
DNS server's IP maybe, then you now have some
interesting problems.

This is using a broadsword where a scalpel is called
for.
scottwimer

Daniel Cid wrote:
Portsentry can block an ip address using the route
command (route reject) in  machines that doesnt
have a
firewall.

Thanks

Daniel B. Cid


--- Paul Schmehl <pauls () utdallas edu> escreveu: >

-->On Wednesday, August 27, 2003 6:30 AM -0600
Mark

Teicher 
<mht3 () earthlink net> wrote:

PortSentry - is more of a firewall than IPS, does

not have any

preventative functionality similiar to Cisco

Secure Agent aka Okena

Stormwatch


Have you used PortSentry?  It's certainly not a
firewall at all.  It 
detects "bad" behavior and immediately writes
rules
to the firewall as well 
as to tcpwrappers (if it's configured that way.) 
I
would define that as an 
IDS.  A specialized one perhaps.  But certainly
not
a firewall.  PortSentry 
doesn't block anything directly.  If the host
doesn't have a firewall 
installed, then all PortSentry can do is either
report the problem (through 
logging) or write deny rules to tcpwrappers (if
configured to do so.)

As far as all this philosophical rambling about
what
defines this or that 
or whether or not a term is mere marketing fluff
or
something more 
substantial, I'll leave that to all the resident
experts.

Paul Schmehl (pauls () utdallas edu)
Adjunct Information Security Officer
The University of Texas at Dallas
AVIEN Founding Member
http://www.utdallas.edu





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