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RE: protect MS Windows 95/98/Me


From: Lee Seidman <lseidman () yahoo com>
Date: Mon, 29 Sep 2003 10:22:08 -0700 (PDT)


For the average user, the use of POLEDIT to create a
policy file on the server will secure Windows 9x
clients somewhat.  But to even the most moderate of
tech savvy individuals, bypassing those policies
through safe mode or just unplugging the ethernet
cable will render that effort ineffective.  "Genuine"
security (if there is such a thing, especially in
Microsoft products) does not exist on Windows 9x
clients.

--- Spencer D'oro <sdoro () comcast net> wrote:
That's way off-base, at least for 98.  By setting
system policies on the
OS using POLEDIT and storing the config.pol file on
the server, you then
set restrcitive policies dependent on whatever ADM
you use.  You load
Group Policies from within Windows components.  And
you set User-level
access control to make authentication for ALL shares
be done by the DC.
If you have a large number of machines, and
upgrading just isn't in the
budget, then it is totally feasible to secure a 98
station.  The 98 OS
is not as of yet obsolete, IMO.

Spencer

-----Original Message-----
From: Steve McLaughlin [mailto:steve () Lan com au] 
Sent: Thursday, September 25, 2003 2:23 AM
To: security-basics () securityfocus com
Subject: RE: protect MS Windows 95/98/Me


Yes, that's a very polite way of saying it.
There is no security features in win9x OS. They are
all totally unsecure
operating systems. The security features within are
totally flawed in
all ways, there is no way of securing these
operating systems.

The solution is to upgrade to windows 2k or XP,
using NTFS.

There is no other way.

Don't embarrass yourself wasting the organisations
capital on totally
obsolete and unstable operating systems.

Consider the 9x OS Obsolete, upgrade to NT5 or 5.1.
Don't bother even
looking further into securing Win9x. It is a total
waste of time.

steve mclaughlin | enlite technologyR
T 1300 135 251 | F +61 (2) 9402 8586
E steve () Lan com au | W www.Lan.com.auT
(MCP, A+, Network+, Server+)
 

-----Original Message-----
From: French, Mark
[mailto:Mark.French () wellington co uk] 
Sent: Thursday, 25 September 2003 2:07 AM
To: 'security-basics () securityfocus com'
Subject: RE: protect MS Windows 95/98/Me

I don't know of any software, but in this situation,
my hardware of
choice would be SCISSORS. Cut the network cable,
keyboard cable, and
mouse cable.

This is probably the only way that this level of
security can be
achieved in these operating systems.

Mark

(Sorry, I couldn't resist)

-----Original Message-----
From: Robert Reidenbach
[mailto:pominciss () greendot com ph]
Sent: 24 September 2003 06:25
To: security-basics () securityfocus com
Subject: protect MS Windows 95/98/Me


Hi everyone!
I'm looking for a software that you can install on
MS Windows 95/98/Me Machines that won't
allow an ordinary user to install any programs or
allow any virus to infect any files.
Would anybody know what they call these programs
and where to get them? Any kind of help will be
appreciated.
-Robert-




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