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RE: Suggested "safe" password length


From: "Smith, KC" <ksmith () systemsalliance com>
Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2003 16:19:15 -0500

I believe that you must keep the human factor in mind when deciding things like this.

While the 'IQyJ$4)xv&' password described below may be quite secure from a pure-technology standpoint, how secure is 
the system when the only way your users can remember their password is to write it down and tape to their monitor?

I know of few users who would even attempt to remember that password and I don't think we should expect them to.

My opinion is that passwords should be no fewer than 6 and no more than 10 characters.  A mix of numbers, case and 
special characters should be mandatory.  Required change of a users password should be made quarterly.

The human factor can not be ignored!

KC Smith


-----Original Message-----
From: Simon Gray [mailto:simong () desktop-guardian com]
Sent: Friday, November 14, 2003 6:30 AM
To: Ashish Sharma
Cc: security-basics () securityfocus com
Subject: Re: Suggested "safe" password length


Hi,

I wanted to have an idea about what should be the suggested range of
password lengths and if there is any upper bound.
I was told that there is a range upto which your password is encrypted
and beyond which the characters are futile. I work on a linux environment
with md5 encryption of passwords enabled.


I would of thought at least 8-10 characters (this does depend on what the
password is authenticating you to? (Nuclear reactor? or your gym locker?))
You may want to enforce say at least 1 numeric, and 1 uppercase and maybe 1
lower case in that. Should also try to get your users to avoid using
dictionary words, even such as hell0, or fr3d etc.. Something like
'IQyJ$4)xv&' or 'z46he+^6**' would be a pretty strong password since it has
no real relevance to anything, however remembering that could be
interesting. That's the price you've got to pay for password security.

Hope this helps.

Regards,

Simon Gray
Desktop Guardian Ltd

Developers of Identrica
mobile phone based authentication
www.identrica.com


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