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RE: Oh Dear, Where to start?!
From: altug () yavas net
Date: Fri, 27 Jun 2003 09:25:18 +0300
Hi steve and all, Some kind of security countermeasures dont require any budget, for example saying people not to write down their passwords instead of their minds. I think, you first have to develop a basic outline of a security policy. Set up a budget, and propose it to the management. Lots of products have very discount rates for academic institutions. have a nice day. Altug Security consultant Quoting Benz Jessica-p53552 <jess.benz () motorola com>:
Steve, I would start with looking at ISO17799. Jessica -----Original Message----- From: Steve Frank [mailto:stevefrankrit () yahoo com] Sent: Wednesday, June 25, 2003 4:56 AM To: security-basics () securityfocus com Subject: Oh Dear, Where to start?! Hey everyone, Ok... I am in a bit of a jam here and I was hoping to get some feedback from some of you with appropriate experience in the field of network security and policy development. I am an senior at RIT studying (essentially) systems administration. My
main
focus and priority has been computer security and policy development. I recently took a internship with a small government office helping out
with
computer administration tasks. Upon arrival, I decided it would be fun to
do
a windows update to see what sort of things would come up for my PC.
Low and
behold, there were over 40 critical updates, driver updates, and
recommended
updates. Right off the bat this triggered the feeling that there was absolutely no security or update plans in place at this particular organization. I quickly addressed the issue, and have been working to draft a comprehensive
security
policy and implement technical controls. What I need advice on is the following: If you were introduced to a mixed network (literally all versions of windows since 3.1 and mac systems) that have no updates, backups, or patches installed... connected to a network with only a basic NAT table and no other security... with not even anti-virus software enabled... with no user policies or disaster plans in place... with unprotected netbios shares everywhere... where would you start the process of building some sort of security solution? I mean, I've seen passwords on monitors, shared accounts, open public ports (even the wiring cabinet was unlocked in plain view of passbys to the building). I've been tasked with creating the security policies relating to internet use, network and phone use, passwords, physical security, backup/disaster plans, antivirus, incident response, email use/protection, and whatever else needs done. This wouldnt be so bad normally I guess, but there is virtually no budget allocated to help for this project and I have approximately 3 months to do it. To make matters worse, I am also responsible for systems admin, network admin, tech support, programming, and whatever other tasks may need to be done in the meantime. So basically, if you had to start from nothing, where would you start first? What would you consider to be the most important things to be implemented? I am literally working from ground zero here... heh! Thank so much in advance ;-) Steve Frank ---------------- President SPARSA Security Practices and Research Student Association Rochester Institute of Technology __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? SBC Yahoo! DSL - Now only $29.95 per month! http://sbc.yahoo.com --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Evaluating SSL VPNs' Consider NEOTERIS, chosen as leader by top
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Current thread:
- Oh Dear, Where to start?! Steve Frank (Jun 25)
- RE: Oh Dear, Where to start?! sanjay . patel (Jun 26)
- RE: Oh Dear, Where to start?! Des Ward (Jun 26)
- Re: Oh Dear, Where to start?! Jason K. Boykin (Jun 26)
- Re: Oh Dear, Where to start?! Mitch Pirtle (Jun 26)
- Re: Oh Dear, Where to start?! bugtraq (Jun 30)
- Re: Oh Dear, Where to start?! Patrick Boucher (Jun 26)
- Re: Oh Dear, Where to start?! Jeff (Jun 26)
- Re: Oh Dear, Where to start?! jon rodman (Jun 27)
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- RE: Oh Dear, Where to start?! Benz Jessica-p53552 (Jun 26)
- RE: Oh Dear, Where to start?! altug (Jun 27)
- Re: Oh Dear, Where to start?! chayden (Jun 26)
- Re: Oh Dear, Where to start?! Nicholas Diotte (Jun 26)
- RE: Oh Dear, Where to start?! sharon_joyner (Jun 26)
- RE: Oh Dear, Where to start?! Drew Hunt (Jun 26)
- Re: Oh Dear, Where to start?! Chris Berry (Jun 26)
- RE: Oh Dear, Where to start?! AKaasjager (Jun 26)
- RE: Oh Dear, Where to start?! tony tony (Jun 27)
- RE: Oh Dear, Where to start?! Mitchell Rowton (Jun 26)
- Fwd: Oh Dear, Where to start?! Rick Jones (Jun 26)
- Re: Oh Dear, Where to start?! Bill Hardstone (Jun 26)
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