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RE: Oh Dear, Where to start?!


From: altug () yavas net
Date: Fri, 27 Jun 2003 09:25:18 +0300



Hi steve and all,

Some kind of security countermeasures dont require any budget, for 
example saying people not to write down their passwords instead of their 
minds.

I think, you first have to develop a basic outline of a security policy. Set 
up a budget, and propose it to the management. Lots of products have 
very discount rates for academic institutions.

have a nice day.
Altug
Security consultant


Quoting Benz Jessica-p53552 <jess.benz () motorola com>:

Steve,
I would start with looking at ISO17799.

Jessica

-----Original Message-----
From: Steve Frank [mailto:stevefrankrit () yahoo com] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 25, 2003 4:56 AM
To: security-basics () securityfocus com
Subject: Oh Dear, Where to start?!


Hey everyone,

Ok... I am in a bit of a jam here and I was hoping to
get some feedback from some of you with appropriate
experience in the field of network security and policy development.

I am an senior at RIT studying (essentially) systems administration. My 
main
focus and priority has been computer security and policy development. I
recently took a internship with a small government office helping out 
with
computer administration tasks. Upon arrival, I decided it would be fun to 
do
a windows update to see what sort of things would come up for my PC. 
Low and
behold, there were over 40 critical updates, driver updates, and 
recommended
updates. 

Right off the bat this triggered the feeling that
there was absolutely no security or update plans in
place at this particular organization. I quickly
addressed the issue, and have been working to draft a comprehensive 
security
policy and implement technical controls.

What I need advice on is the following: If you were
introduced to a mixed network (literally all versions
of windows since 3.1 and mac systems) that have no
updates, backups, or patches installed... connected to
a network with only a basic NAT table and no other
security... with not even anti-virus software
enabled... with no user policies or disaster plans in
place... with unprotected netbios shares everywhere...
where would you start the process of building some
sort of security solution?

I mean, I've seen passwords on monitors, shared
accounts, open public ports (even the wiring cabinet
was unlocked in plain view of passbys to the
building). I've been tasked with creating the security
policies relating to internet use, network and phone
use, passwords, physical security, backup/disaster
plans, antivirus, incident response, email
use/protection, and whatever else needs done. This
wouldnt be so bad normally I guess, but there is
virtually no budget allocated to help for this project
and I have approximately 3 months to do it. To make
matters worse, I am also responsible for systems
admin, network admin, tech support, programming, and
whatever other tasks may need to be done in the
meantime.

So basically, if you had to start from nothing, where
would you start first? What would you consider to be
the most important things to be implemented? I am
literally working from ground zero here... heh!

Thank so much in advance ;-)

Steve Frank

----------------
President SPARSA
Security Practices and Research Student Association
Rochester Institute of Technology

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