RE: Wireless Legality- Netstumbler and kin

["DePriest, Jason R." <jrdepriest () ftb com>]

In my opinion, Radar Detector devices have no legitimate usage; therefore,
they can be confiscated on sight.
On the other hand, a tool such as Kismet or Netstumbler can be used by a
qualified security analyst to perform risk testing on a wireless network.

But since I am not a lawyer, either, I may be full of crap.

-Jason

-----Original Message-----
From: Ralf Dreibrodt [mailto:ralf () dreibrodt de]
Sent: Saturday, March 16, 2002 01:23 PM
To: ZeroBreak
Cc: Security Focus - Vulnerability Development
Subject: Re: Wireless Legality- Netstumbler and kin


Hi,

one example:

ZeroBreak wrote:
> The frequencies used are all open to the public.

AFAIK the frequencies of a radar trap are open to the public.

> It does not send out any
> probes, it sits in promiscuous mode and pulls in packets and gives an
> output like netstumbler. That goes a step further than netstumbler. Your
> card isn't sending anything at all it's just listening.

a radar warning system is only listenig to the "pakets" and gives an alarm.

in the meanwhile in germany every policemen is allowed to seize a radar 
warning system, if he sees one. it even doesn't have to be switched on.

perhaps there is any lawyer on the list?!?

i will see one in about one month, perhaps i can ask for his opinion 
about sniffing in an unprotected wireless lan, but i think at least in 
germany it is not allowed.

bye
Ralf