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FW: Modern hw-killing virus feasible
From: Russell Munday <rmunday () SYSCAP COM>
Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2001 09:32:41 -0000
I've heard of this before and believe it to be just that, a rumor. In order for a monitor to implode, not explode as some people seem to think as the CRT contains a vacuum, it would have to sustain some heavy physical damage. Perhaps if there was a power surge through the actual power line, that may set in effect a myriad of possibilities, implosion being one of them. I've never heard of this happening, but I suppose it could happen. Could the input signal lines be modified in a way to implode the monitor? The power they tend to carry is low, and I can't see the possibility to adjust the voltage to a higher level. You would need to adjust the transformer in the PC and that can't be changed except by direct physical access. Speaking of these hardware killing viruses, I once heard of a virus that could pop the CPU out of it's socket. Yeah right! Maybe one day there'll be a virus that can do some real hardware damage, but I can't see it. Please bear in mind that while I do understand quite a bit about electronics, I am not an Electrical Engineer and if any of my statements are wrong please let me know along with an explanation of why it can be done. Thank you. Russell -----Original Message----- From: fejed [mailto:fejed () OPTUSHOME COM AU] Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2001 10:40 AM To: VULN-DEV () SECURITYFOCUS COM Subject: Re: Modern hw-killing virus feasible Using severely incorrect modelines can cause some monitors to implode. <roumor/> ----- Original Message ----- From: Ma Gores <gores () INAME COM> To: <VULN-DEV () SECURITYFOCUS COM> Sent: Tuesday, March 06, 2001 8:57 PM Subject: Re: Modern hw-killing virus feasible
Quoting from someone, somewhere, else... "cih erased the software stored on the chip... it should be obvious from that that it is software damage, not hardware damage... > But its damage is just as bad" Semantics, maybe. ------- Magores At 07:57 PM 3/6/2001 +0100, you wrote:Hi, Doesn't seem anything really new. The CIH Virus http://vil.mcafee.com/dispVirus.asp?virus_k=10300& ) written in 1998
did
something like what you are describing. On a set date it tried to flash
the
bios with garbage, making the infected pc unable to boot. Alot of hardware can probably be killed this way, as a lot of hardware
these
days have flashable eeprom's. The only problem is is that they have
various
ways of flashing the eeprom, thus making it (virtually) impossible for a virus to have a generic (flash-)payload for a lot of hardware. Kind Regards, Bart
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