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Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2003 20:51:49 -0800



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Today's Topics:

   1. Re: RPM config (Daniel Wittenberg)
   2. Re: running oinkmaster - Error: unable to download.....
(=?iso-8859-1?Q?Andreas_=D6stling?=)
   3. Installation of Snort Sensor (edmund.li () alcatel com hk)
   4. Hot to see how many packets my snort is droping (Philip Nedev)
   5. Re: Hot to see how many packets my snort is droping (Mark Nipper)
   6. Installation Problem (Aryan D)
   7. Re: running oinkmaster - Error: unable to download..... (Snortty)
   8. ids + umts (Roberto Bosticardo)
   9. Re: running oinkmaster - Error: unable to download..... (Snortty)
  10. /etc/passwd request increase (Sheahan, Paul)
  11. perl script for snort (keith greenhill)
  12. RPM config (JOHNSON DAVID R)
  13. Snort Alerting Question (ACiD)

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Message: 1
Subject: Re: [Snort-users] RPM config
From: Daniel Wittenberg <daniel-wittenberg () starken com>
To: snort-users () lists sourceforge net
Organization: The Starken Group
Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2003 22:31:05 -0600

No, not on by default, to enable:

rpmbuild --rebuild --with flexresp snort-2.0.2-6.src.rpm

Dan


On Wed, 2003-10-29 at 18:42, dvid johnson wrote:
Does the snort RPM come wiht the enable flex repsonse option already 
configured or should i use the tarball and enable the option manually?

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Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2003 08:02:36 +0100 (CET)
From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Andreas_=D6stling?= <andreaso () it su se>
To: Snortty <cwcwcwg () yahoo com>
Cc: Snort-users () lists sourceforge net
Subject: Re: [Snort-users] running oinkmaster - Error: unable to
download.....


On Wed, 29 Oct 2003, Snortty wrote:

Can anyone explain why please.

Add the "-v" argument and you should see a better error message.
Maybe you need to setup proxy configuration first?

/Andreas


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Message: 3
To: snort-users () lists sourceforge net
From: edmund.li () alcatel com hk
Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2003 16:20:31 +0800
Subject: [Snort-users] Installation of Snort Sensor

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Dear all, 

I have installed the snort server 2.0.2 on Redhat 9.0 with mysql, acid, 
snortcenter etc. It seems to be ok, (alert can be detected by scanning 
machine). Nowadays, I am starting the senor with another machine Redhat 
7.3, however I do not see any good topic about this. Any suggest for 
creating a sensor properly.

PS: (I installed snortcenter agent to Redhat 7.3) and it seems the senor

can be controlled/watched by snort server 2.0.2 (with snortcenter) e.g,
I 
can see the status of the sensor, however I can not see any alert 
detection from acid of snort server when I do the same scanning
activities 
to the sensor.

What I did for the sensor
1) install mysql 4.0.16 without-server option ( I do not create any 
database at all), do I miss something, or I need to have a full 
installation with mysql server option ? 
2) install tcpdump.3.7.2
3) install  libcap-0.7.2
4) install snort-2.0.2
5) snortcenter-agent-v1.0-RC1

Base on the Snort Enterprise implementation guide, it seems sensor with 
send sql info to snort server for analysing. 

Edmund
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<br><font size=2 face="sans-serif">Dear all, </font>
<br>
<br><font size=2 face="sans-serif">I have installed the snort server
2.0.2
on Redhat 9.0 with mysql, acid, snortcenter etc. It seems to be ok,
(alert
can be detected by scanning machine). Nowadays, I am starting the senor
with another machine Redhat 7.3, however I do not see any good topic
about
this. Any suggest for creating a sensor properly.</font>
<br>
<br><font size=2 face="sans-serif">PS: (I installed snortcenter agent to
Redhat 7.3) and it seems the senor can be controlled/watched by snort
server
2.0.2 (with snortcenter) e.g, I can see the status of the sensor,
however
I can not see any alert detection from acid of snort server when I do
the
same scanning activities to the sensor.</font>
<br>
<br><font size=2 face="sans-serif">What I did for the sensor</font>
<br><font size=2 face="sans-serif">1) install mysql 4.0.16
without-server
option ( I do not create any database at all), do I miss something, or
I need to have a full installation with mysql server option ? </font>
<br><font size=2 face="sans-serif">2) install tcpdump.3.7.2</font>
<br><font size=2 face="sans-serif">3) install &nbsp;libcap-0.7.2</font>
<br><font size=2 face="sans-serif">4) install snort-2.0.2</font>
<br><font size=2 face="sans-serif">5) snortcenter-agent-v1.0-RC1</font>
<br>
<br><font size=2 face="sans-serif">Base on the Snort Enterprise
implementation
guide, it seems sensor with send sql info to snort server for analysing.
</font>
<br>
<br><font size=2 face="sans-serif">Edmund</font>
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Message: 4
Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2003 00:58:28 -0800 (PST)
From: Philip Nedev <philipsnedev () yahoo com>
To: snort-users () lists sourceforge net
Subject: [Snort-users] Hot to see how many packets my snort is droping

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Hi all

Sorry for this stupid question but i am new.

Hot to see how many packets my snort is droping



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Message: 5
Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2003 05:55:00 -0600
From: Mark Nipper <nipsy () tamu edu>
To: Philip Nedev <philipsnedev () yahoo com>
Cc: snort-users () lists sourceforge net
Subject: Re: [Snort-users] Hot to see how many packets my snort is
droping

On 30 Oct 2003, Philip Nedev wrote:
   Hot to see how many packets my snort is droping

        Assuming you are running the Unix version of snort, you
can do 'kill -s USR1 PID' where PID is the process id of snort
(find it with 'ps xa | grep snort' or failing that maybe 'ps -ef
| grep snort' (maybe even just 'pidof snort' depending on your
OS)).  This will tell snort to dump out some statistics to either
the console or if you have it running in daemon mode, it will
dump the info to syslog.

        Hopefully that helps!

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Message: 6
From: "Aryan D" <aryan_912 () hotmail com>
To: snort-users () lists sourceforge net
Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2003 20:53:27 +0530
Subject: [Snort-users] Installation Problem

Hi ,

When i try to configure the Sensor it give me a Sensor message "Error - 
Access denied <Sensor IP>"
This is while creating New Sensor on Snortcenter.

Please help ..this the second time i have installed Snort.

Also while i was tring to install Snortagent, i got an option to select
the 
OS, but in the list i was not able to fing Redhat 9, so instead i
selected 
Redhat 8. Is it ok ?

Aryan

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Message: 7
Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2003 07:43:28 -0800 (PST)
From: Snortty <cwcwcwg () yahoo com>
Subject: Re: [Snort-users] running oinkmaster - Error: unable to
download.....
To: "Andreas_Östling" <andreaso () it su se>, Paul Schmehl
<pauls () utdallas edu>
Cc: Snort-users () lists sourceforge net

Andreas, Paul, and All,

Here are two things I have tried: 

# oinkmaster.pl -v -o /tmp/rules
Adding file to ignore list: local.rules.
Adding file to ignore list: snort.conf.
Downloading rules archive from
http://www.snort.org/dl/rules/snortrules-stable.tar.gz...
--15:30:46-- 
http://www.snort.org/dl/rules/snortrules-stable.tar.gz
           => `/tmp/oinkmaster.1767/snortrules.tar.gz'
Resolving www.snort.org... failed: Host not found.

/usr/local/bin/oinkmaster.pl: Error: unable to
download rules from
http://www.snort.org/dl/rules/snortrules-stable.tar.gz
(got error code from wget).

Oink, oink. Exiting...
# 
--------------------------------

# wget -r
http://www.snort.org/dl/rules/snortrules-stable.tar.gz
--15:28:28-- 
http://www.snort.org/dl/rules/snortrules-stable.tar.gz
           =>
`www.snort.org/dl/rules/snortrules-stable.tar.gz'
Resolving www.snort.org... failed: Host not found.

FINISHED --15:28:28--
Downloaded: 0 bytes in 0 files
-----------------------------------

Do I need to install anything such as web browser
(I.E.) or http software to make it work?

Firewall should not be an issue here, but is there a
way to quick test, such as a http commend to go to the
internet please (I'm really not close to an Unix guy,
so bear with me a little more please)?

Thanks so much. 








--- Andreas_Östling <andreaso () it su se> wrote:

On Wed, 29 Oct 2003, Snortty wrote:

Can anyone explain why please.

Add the "-v" argument and you should see a better
error message.
Maybe you need to setup proxy configuration first?

/Andreas


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Message: 8
Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2003 16:50:48 +0100
From: Roberto Bosticardo <roberto.bosticardo () csp it>
To: snort-users () lists sourceforge net
Subject: [Snort-users] ids + umts

Hi all
i would like to find documentation on ids on GPRS/UMTS networks
any idea ??
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Message: 9
Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2003 08:27:37 -0800 (PST)
From: Snortty <cwcwcwg () yahoo com>
Subject: Re: [Snort-users] running oinkmaster - Error: unable to
download.....
To: "Andreas_Östling" <andreaso () it su se>, Paul Schmehl
<pauls () utdallas edu>
Cc: Snort-users () lists sourceforge net


I think it's the FW and Proxy related. I tried below
(using IP instead of www.snort.org): 

# wget -r http://199.107.65.177                       
         
--16:13:26--  http://199.107.65.177/
           => `199.107.65.177/index.html'
Connecting to 199.107.65.177:80... 

--------------------

Now, it dose not say "host not found", which indicated
the proxy related issues. 

But can't connected to www.snort.org, so I checked
firewall log, it did show drops http. 

Questions:
where to check the proxy set up for my snort box?

Any other ideas/suggestions, such as am I on the right
track here?
Thanks. 




--- Snortty <cwcwcwg () yahoo com> wrote:
Andreas, Paul, and All,

Here are two things I have tried: 

# oinkmaster.pl -v -o /tmp/rules
Adding file to ignore list: local.rules.
Adding file to ignore list: snort.conf.
Downloading rules archive from

http://www.snort.org/dl/rules/snortrules-stable.tar.gz...
--15:30:46-- 

http://www.snort.org/dl/rules/snortrules-stable.tar.gz
           =>
`/tmp/oinkmaster.1767/snortrules.tar.gz'
Resolving www.snort.org... failed: Host not found.

/usr/local/bin/oinkmaster.pl: Error: unable to
download rules from

http://www.snort.org/dl/rules/snortrules-stable.tar.gz
(got error code from wget).

Oink, oink. Exiting...
# 
--------------------------------

# wget -r

http://www.snort.org/dl/rules/snortrules-stable.tar.gz
--15:28:28-- 

http://www.snort.org/dl/rules/snortrules-stable.tar.gz
           =>
`www.snort.org/dl/rules/snortrules-stable.tar.gz'
Resolving www.snort.org... failed: Host not found.

FINISHED --15:28:28--
Downloaded: 0 bytes in 0 files
-----------------------------------

Do I need to install anything such as web browser
(I.E.) or http software to make it work?

Firewall should not be an issue here, but is there a
way to quick test, such as a http commend to go to
the
internet please (I'm really not close to an Unix
guy,
so bear with me a little more please)?

Thanks so much. 








--- Andreas_Östling <andreaso () it su se> wrote:

On Wed, 29 Oct 2003, Snortty wrote:

Can anyone explain why please.

Add the "-v" argument and you should see a better
error message.
Maybe you need to setup proxy configuration first?

/Andreas


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Message: 10
Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2003 11:36:00 -0500
From: "Sheahan, Paul" <Paul.Sheahan () priceline com>
To: "Snort List (E-mail)" <snort-users () lists sourceforge net>
Subject: [Snort-users] /etc/passwd request increase


Anyone else seeing an increased number of web requests for /etc/passwd =
today? I'm seeing a large increase from a large number of different =
sources.

Thanks


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Message: 11
Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2003 09:17:24 -0800 (PST)
From: keith greenhill <kkg0123 () yahoo com>
To: snort-users () lists sourceforge net
Subject: [Snort-users] perl script for snort

Please give me a perl scprit command for starting and
stopping snort for an hour at a time.

Thanx


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Message: 12
From: JOHNSON DAVID R <david.johnson () hamptonu edu>
To: "'snort-users () lists sourceforge net'"
         <snort-users () lists sourceforge net>
Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2003 19:06:44 -0500
Subject: [Snort-users] RPM config

does the rpm come with the flexresponse option enabled by default or
should i use the tarball and config snort with the
--enable-flex-response
option?


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Message: 13
From: "ACiD" <ACiD-0 () comcast net>
To: <snort-users () lists sourceforge net>
Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2003 19:58:56 -0500
Subject: [Snort-users] Snort Alerting Question

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I am having a problem figuring why a certain packet will not alert under
snort.  Below is one such (malformed) packet. Any assistance is greatly
appreciated and thanks in advance.

Standard Rule (from default chat.rules):
alert tcp $HOME_NET any <> $EXTERNAL_NET 1863 (msg:"CHAT MSN message";
flow:established; content:"MSG "; depth:4; content:"Content-Type\:";
content:"text/plain"; distance:1; classtype:misc-activity; sid:540;
rev:8;)

Malformed Packet:
05:22:53.884488 xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx.61924 > yyy.yyy.yyy.yyy.1863: P [bad tcp
cksum 4040!] 245:384(139) ack 1 win 16482 (DF) (ttl 122, id 127, len
179, bad cksum ff2a!)
0x0000   4500 00b3 007f 4000 7a06 ff2a 8a61 1258        E.....@.z..*.a.X
0x0010   4004 0c9e f1e4 0747 46f1 28b3 359a 173d        @......GF.(.5..=
0x0020   5018 4062 37b4 0000 4d53 4720 3520 4e20        P. () b7   MSG.5.N.
0x0030   3132 360d 0a4d 494d 452d 5665 7273 696f        126..MIME-Versio
0x0040   6e3a 2031 2e30 0d0a 436f 6e74 656e 742d        n:.1.0..Content-
0x0050   5479 7065 3a20 7465 7874 2f70 6c61 696e        Type:.text/plain
0x0060   3b20 6368 6172 7365 743d 5554 462d 380d        ;.charset=UTF-8.
0x0070   0a58 2d4d 4d53 2d49 4d2d 466f 726d 6174        .X-MMS-IM-Format
0x0080   3a20 464e 3d4d 5325 3230 5368 656c 6c25        :.FN=MS%20Shell%
0x0090   3230 446c 673b 2045 463d 3b20 434f 3d30        20Dlg;.EF=;.CO=0
0x00a0   3b20 4353 3d30 3b20 5046 3d30 0d0a 0d0a        ;.CS=0;.PF=0....
0x00b0   7965 73                                        yes

I just cannot figure out why Snort will not alert on the packet.  I
understand that the tcp checksum is bad, therefore I am using the -k
none option.  The depth:4 should catch the MSG

Any ideas ???




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certain packet will not alert under snort.&nbsp; Below is one such =
(malformed) packet. Any assistance is greatly appreciated and thanks in
=
advance.</FONT></P>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Tahoma">Standard Rule (from default =
chat.rules):</FONT>

<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Tahoma">alert tcp $HOME_NET any &lt;&gt; =
$EXTERNAL_NET 1863 (msg:&quot;CHAT MSN message&quot;; flow:established;
=
content:&quot;MSG &quot;; depth:4; content:&quot;Content-Type\:&quot;; =
content:&quot;text/plain&quot;; distance:1; classtype:misc-activity; =
sid:540; rev:8;)</FONT></P>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Tahoma">Malformed Packet:</FONT>

<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Courier New">05:22:53.884488 =
xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx.61924 &gt; yyy.yyy.yyy.yyy.1863: P [bad tcp cksum 4040!]
=
245:384(139) ack 1 win 16482 (DF) (ttl 122, id 127, len 179, bad cksum =
ff2a!)</FONT></P>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Courier New">0x0000&nbsp;&nbsp; 4500 00b3 007f
=
4000 7a06 ff2a 8a61 1258&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
E.....@.z..*.a.X</FONT>

<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Courier New">0x0010&nbsp;&nbsp; 4004 0c9e =
f1e4 0747 46f1 28b3 359a 173d&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
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@......GF.(.5..=3D</FONT>

<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Courier New">0x0020&nbsp;&nbsp; 5018 4062 =
37b4 0000 4d53 4720 3520 4e20&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
=
P. () b7   MSG.5.N.</FONT>

<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Courier New">0x0030&nbsp;&nbsp; 3132 360d =
0a4d 494d 452d 5665 7273 696f&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
=
126..MIME-Versio</FONT>

<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Courier New">0x0040&nbsp;&nbsp; 6e3a 2031 =
2e30 0d0a 436f 6e74 656e 742d&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
=
n:.1.0..Content-</FONT>

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3a20 7465 7874 2f70 6c61 696e&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
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Type:.text/plain</FONT>

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6172 7365 743d 5554 462d 380d&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
=
;.charset=3DUTF-8.</FONT>

<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Courier New">0x0070&nbsp;&nbsp; 0a58 2d4d =
4d53 2d49 4d2d 466f 726d 6174&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
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.X-MMS-IM-Format</FONT>

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3d4d 5325 3230 5368 656c 6c25&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
=
:.FN=3DMS%20Shell%</FONT>

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673b 2045 463d 3b20 434f 3d30&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
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nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; yes</FONT>
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<P><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Tahoma">I just cannot figure out why Snort =
will not alert on the packet.&nbsp; I understand that the tcp checksum =
is bad, therefore I am using the -k none option.&nbsp; The depth:4 =
should catch the MSG</FONT></P>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Tahoma">Any ideas ???</FONT>
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