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Re: installing acid on fbsd4.6 for meer mortals
From: twig les <twigles () yahoo com>
Date: Sun, 25 Aug 2002 18:06:25 -0700 (PDT)
I must say that I agree with this letter and found it incredibly enjoyable to read while making 2-fingered quotation marks in the air when John emphasized something. Although I do that anyway since it annoys my wife. :) He's right though. If you want help, ask for it. Don't use the list as a release for your frustration. News flash: when you do something new, you usually get frustrated. We've all been there, but no one needs to hear about it. --- John Sage <jsage () finchhaven com> wrote:
On Fri, Aug 23, 2002 at 09:57:36AM +0200, HenkP () masana co za wrote:I am a newcomer to this list, and my firstimpressions are not verypositive. It seems certain people are moreinterested in flaming thanactually helping.I hope you continue to use this list; you will find the regulars to be quite responsive to those who: 1) appear to have given some effort to answering their questions themselves, before posting.. 2) give full specification of: a) OS you're running snort on b) what version of snort you're running c) what command line parameters you're passing to snort d) often, what snort.conf you're using 3) post an actual, specific question, in the form of a question, not a rambling monologue about how hard something is and how much something sucks and how the poster is just giving up... People often expect answers without saying -> specifically <- what the problem is. I mean, what is anybody supposed to make of this: "...I have tried the doc on snort...it can not possible be correct.... maybe in theory only but not in practice. Something is missing from that doc. I can not get php4, gd2, phplot to work with each other and I have not bother to go any further..." People often expect answers to questions without giving any specifics. Thus the -> volunteers <- who would like to respond are often forced to ask a series of preliminary questions before they *begin* to have enough useful information to begin formulating an answer. This is for the most part a waste of time; Yes: many of the regulars won't even bother.Suggestion - maybe you should just reply tosomeone with a oneliner thatlinks to the URL for "howto ask the rightquestions" instead of pullingpeople apart.It's very often lost on new posters that most of the questions have been heard before, and before, and before. That's why there's a FAQ. As for this specific thread, the original poster "pat" <hobo () speakeasy net> did absolutely nothing to endear anyone to him or his problem: go read his original post. He was lucky he received any response at all. If I hadn't been in a bad mood, and -> sarcastically <- responded to his first post he might have received no response whatsoever. Finally, sarcasm is hardly "..pulling people apart.."I thought the object of the list was to helppeople... If the questions isone that offends, then rather ignore it, reactingin this way causes a lotof responses from everyone about isuess that hasgot nothing to do withsnort... Like this mail of mine, I have betterthings to do, than to writethis email.Posters to any list, who are by definition asking -> volunteers <- for their time, in help, do have IMNSHO an obligation to ask questions properly and with some initial courtesy. The original poster did neither. None of the rest of us have time to waste, either, you know... - John -- "In those days, you could not buy a $2000 200MHz Pentium server." PGP key: http://www.finchhaven.com/pages/gpg_pubkey.html Fingerprint: C493 9F26 05A9 6497 9800 4EF6 5FC8 F23D 35A4 F705
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- Re: installing acid on fbsd4.6 for meer mortals, (continued)
- Re: installing acid on fbsd4.6 for meer mortals J. Craig Woods (Aug 22)
- Re: installing acid on fbsd4.6 for meer mortals John Sage (Aug 22)
- Re: installing acid on fbsd4.6 for meer mortals John Sage (Aug 22)
- RE: installing acid on fbsd4.6 for meer mortals Brian Bevers (Aug 22)
- RE: installing acid on fbsd4.6 for meer mortals twig les (Aug 22)
- Re: installing acid on fbsd4.6 for meer mortals John Sage (Aug 22)
- Re: installing acid on fbsd4.6 for meer mortals John Sage (Aug 25)
- Re: installing acid on fbsd4.6 for meer mortals twig les (Aug 25)
- Re: installing acid on fbsd4.6 for meer mortals Jim Burwell (Aug 23)