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FC: Responses to conservative group lobbies for U.S. mail spying
From: Declan McCullagh <declan () well com>
Date: Mon, 02 Oct 2000 10:27:57 -0400
ATR's Michael Kamburowski wrote in with a reply to a politech message from last week about his group endorsing broader U.S. mail surveillance. You can find his reply (and, in fact, reply to his reply) at:
http://www.cluebot.com/article.pl?sid=00/09/28/0558214&mode=nested Another response, from a libertarian:
I wouldn't endorse their solution, but I note that ATR is complaining about the situation whereby "Customs can and does search almost all mail sent through private carriers but cannot search most mail sent through the U.S. Postal Service." Assuming that's true, it seems an unreasonable burden on the private sector that is not borne by the government quasi-monopoly competitor.
-Declan ******** From: "Thomas Junker" <tjunker () tjunker com> To: info () atr org Date: Sun, 1 Oct 2000 12:37:52 -0500 Subject: Has ATR gone completelyl NUTS? CC: declan () well com OPEN LETTER TO Americans for Tax Reform, Grover Norquist, President, and Michael Kamburowski , Vice President for Legislative Affairs Re: email from Michael Kamburowski (mkamburowski () atr org), September 26, 2000 Dear ATR and Michael Kamburowski: It's painfully clear that it's time for you to close up the ATR shop and go home. Your contact with bureaucrats and politicians apparently has produced what it always seems to produce, even in those who start off with pretty good ideas: Washington Brain Rot. You don't think U.S. Customs invades enough privacy as it is? You want them to open *all* the items possible? Have you people gone completely nuts??? This has *nothing* to do with drugs and *everything* to do with handing over ever more unconstitutional pseudo-authority to agencies that have already made a mockery of our Constitutional Republic. For that matter, how can a self-respecting tax reform advocacy organization go anywhere near supporting intrusive searches for "laundered money and other contraband?" If we were to get the tax reform we need and want and that the Constitution requires, there wouldn't *be* such a thing as "money laundering," which is one of the greatest pseudo-crimes ever invented by control freak governments. And just when was it that you strayed so far off the reservation, hmmm? When did "tax reform" come to include "warrantless searching of mail?" Have you spent so much time around reality-warped Washington bureaucrats that you have begun to equate "tax reform" with Washington's novel notion of "reducing tax losses," which in reality are nothing more than missed opportunities for the feeders at the public trough to snarf up every last bit within their reach? I am surprised you can mention the Bank Secrecy Act with a straight face. It has as much to do with secrecy as "The People's Democratic Republic of China" as to do with democracy or any other voice or power of the Chinese people. The very Act you advocate making even worse than it already is is itself a masterpiece of Orwellian newspeak. Shame on you all. For the life of me I can't imagine what exotic drugs you might be taking that would give you the delusion that Americans favoring tax reform would swallow this latest bilge. You must have missed more than a few briefing memos on the sentiments of the people who want true tax reform. I for one will not support your organization in any way unless and until the unlikely event that you come to your senses, get rid of Michael Kamburowski, and apologize to the American people for having advocated more jack-booted thugism and continued desecration of the U.S. Constitution. In the alternative, the very best thing you could do would be to close up shop and go back to the presumably useful occupations you once had in Real Life, making room for some group as yet uninfected by Washington Brain Rot to take your place and fight the good fight. Don't forget to turn the lights off when you leave. Regards, Thomas Junker tjunker () tjunker com *--------------------------------------------* * We don't need "tax reform;" all we need is * * Bill of Rights Enforcement * *--------------------------------------------* ------------------------------------------------------------------------- POLITECH -- the moderated mailing list of politics and technology You may redistribute this message freely if it remains intact. To subscribe, visit http://www.politechbot.com/info/subscribe.html This message is archived at http://www.politechbot.com/ -------------------------------------------------------------------------
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