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Re: rules of engagement scope


From: mr.nasty () ix netcom com
Date: 15 May 2006 19:32:58 -0000

Rules of Engagement Scope is as absurd as legally shredding audit papers.

Let me give you an example.

Pen-Tests are usually performed after a vulnerability test, which is done to support a financial audit, which is used 
to provide shareholders definite information regarding the stability of an organization.

If an organization requires a limited scope pen-test without disclosure wouldn't this constitute as a lie? Think about 
this just for a second. If you sign a Government form and there are mistakes on the form then you can be charged with 
FRAUD.

So if an organization establishes 'ROE' that sets a limited scope on the pen-test without public disclosure, why is 
that different than FRAUD?

National Security?

MHO is that pen-tests are as important as the certified financial statements used by organizations and should have 
public disclaimers of ROE.  When an organization is audited with certain constraints that information is or should be 
disclosed within those statements.

Information that is not disclosed regarding these limitations to me is considered FRAUD!

But then, that's just my opinion I could be monitored, jailed, fined and detained.

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