Re: Licensed Penetration Tester LPT

["Maudite MLRL" <maudite.mlrl () gmail com>]

Would that mean I can stop getting Certs just because its the flavor
of the day (or is it that HR only understands certs).... Sounds
cheaper to me. Especially this CPE crap. I do enough at work and I
can't count it in most cases because the "governing body" does not
accept work experience for CPE.

I think a better cert would be to mail the HR manager and hiring
Manager their password.

-M

On 4/24/06, Dogten <dogten () d3fcon org> wrote:
> Mark Teicher wrote:
> > Why not license security engineers/gurus like they do social workers, plumbers and doctors.
> >
> > Then after one gets everyone to comply, partner with an insurance company to offer liability and malpractice 
> > insurance to the licensed penetration testers, just in case someone accidently shuts down a life support system in 
> > a hospital as they are scanning random Class 'C's on the internet or hijacking root DNS servers in order to play 
> > audio streams.
> >
> > For those who do not comply, set up Senate hearings, and send out letters to those who do not comply, "Are you an 
> > unlicensed penetration tester?"  If yes, please list all your friends, neighbors, etc that may or may not be 
> > unlicense penetration testers.  Once they have rounded up all the non complying penetration testers, escort them to 
> > local train stations, and guide them onto the train, where they will be taken to re-education camps in Lincoln, 
> > Nebraska.  --:)
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> >
> > > From: Dogten <dogten () d3fcon org>
> > > Sent: Apr 20, 2006 10:08 PM
> > > To: Steve Friedl <steve () unixwiz net>
> > > Cc: pen-test () securityfocus com
> > > Subject: Re: Licensed Penetration Tester LPT
> > >
> > > Steve Friedl wrote:
> > >
> > > > If it's not from the government, it's not a real license.
> > > where does literary license come in? the media certainly practices it
> > > with impunity.
> > >
> > > --
> > > -dogten, C²ISSP
> > > _________________
> > > Fight the power and the power will fight back
> > > Your only as good as the system you hack
> > > If you become a problem you will be replaced
> > > Banned, shut down, erased !
> > >
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> --
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> _________________
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> If you become a problem you will be replaced
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>
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