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Re: Multiple Spoofed HTTP Requests
From: Jayson Anderson <sonick () sonick com>
Date: Sat, 03 Sep 2005 01:27:36 -0700
Greetings, It is not possible to craft a -valid- HTTP request due to the Layer4 setup requirements (handshake) prior to the Layer7 request (HTTP GET/etc.) Per spec, the OSI model must be traversed, not randomly-accessed. It IS possible to craft the HTTP request in the initial SYN request, but there isn't a server on earth that will be so far out of spec that it would actually honor it. About the only chance would be a v.01Alpha Jr. coder's 'My first httpd'. The only other possibility is a specific application or proxy/wrapper that is designed to accept and parse requests which contain an HTTP request in the SYN packet payload; perhaps for obfuscated data transfer or stealing data... I've never seen such a thing but would not be surprised if it exists due to tcp/80 outbound prevalence. Another IP exception could be multicast...... It's still remotely possible that HTTP found in the SYN payload would significantly CONFUSE a less-mature server software, but NOT likely. Even in the incredibly remote chance some software parsed the SYN payload and gave 2-whats about it, you still won't be able to see the reply, if any. As you're probably already aware, the only thing this would show any potential for is anonymously placing a small bit(s) of data into memory or to disk, or (more likely) for DoS. But you knew that already :) You can forge such a request but the odds of finding a host that cares about the payload even enough to waste memory err'ing out the payloads is worse than the odds of getting hit my lightning. Best Regards, Jayson On Fri, 2005-09-02 at 13:11 +0000, kuffya () gmail com wrote:
Hi list, I've used a variety of tools such as Nemesis, Packet Xcalibur & Libnet GUI to craft customized packets. Using such tools, you can create packets at layers 2 up to 5 possibly spoofing your source IP, port numbers or whatever you see fit. The question is : Would it be possible to craft a HTTP request(or multiple requests) using a spoofed IP address? I'm inclined to consider that it's not, the reason being you must have a 3-way handshake established before you can start talking application layer protocols (such as HTTP). If you use a spoofed IP address, then there's no way of doing that. On the other hand, I might be totally wrong, that's why I'm asking the list, for the list is wise. If, however, it is possible could you please give me some directions on how to do it? Thanks a lot S. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Audit your website security with Acunetix Web Vulnerability Scanner: Hackers are concentrating their efforts on attacking applications on your website. Up to 75% of cyber attacks are launched on shopping carts, forms, login pages, dynamic content etc. Firewalls, SSL and locked-down servers are futile against web application hacking. Check your website for vulnerabilities to SQL injection, Cross site scripting and other web attacks before hackers do! Download Trial at: http://www.securityfocus.com/sponsor/pen-test_050831 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
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Current thread:
- Multiple Spoofed HTTP Requests kuffya (Sep 02)
- RE: Multiple Spoofed HTTP Requests Omar A. Herrera (Sep 03)
- Re: Multiple Spoofed HTTP Requests Jayson Anderson (Sep 03)
- RE: Multiple Spoofed HTTP Requests Kyle Starkey (Sep 03)
- Re: Multiple Spoofed HTTP Requests Kaj Huisman (Sep 03)
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