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RE: Odd situation, advice needed on penentration test results


From: "Vitaly Osipov" <witt () infosec ru>
Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2003 11:13:23 +0300


Guys, you are missing something here. The original poster's concern was
what to do with the 0-day exploits, rootkit and sources from security
vendors discovered on the machine. They could simply report to all
vendors involved, but as I understand their client does not want to be
mentioned in the relation to this. This is not a technical, but a
legal/political situation.


Best regards,
Vitaly Osipov, CISSP, CCSE, CCNA




-----Original Message-----
From: Harlan Carvey [mailto:keydet89 () yahoo com] 
Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2003 1:02 AM
To: pen-test () securityfocus com
Subject: Re: Odd situation, advice needed on penentration test results


Ido,

While catching this person is obviously of
importance, 
the more critical step to take is to secure the
system
for forensic analysis.

I would agree that the system needs to be secured, but
what good does shutting down the system do if you
loose all of the volatile data, such as running
processes, network connections, etc?  How do you trace
the issue back to whomever is responsible if you don't
even know what IP address they're coming from, b/c
you've lost the volatile data?

I would recommend that the your
client unplug the power from the system (hopefully
the
intruder has not setup a logic bomb that triggers if
the
network interface goes down).

I'm not sure I completely understand your reasoning
here.  If you unplug the power from the system, and
the NIC goes down (due to lack of power), wouldn't the
system itself shut off?  Wouldn't the hard drive stop
spinning and the CPU no longer process instructions?  

If that's the case...how's a logic bomb going to
execute?

Thanks,

Harlan


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