Re: Online Scanning Services Vrs. Stand Alone Applications

[Gene Yoo <gyoo () attbi com>]

IMHO

i have not heard about any comparison except bunch of sales 
pitch.  i do agree with danny that depending on the size of 
your pipe, it's not only cost prohibitive but also resource hog.

it's nice that someone outside could do that for you and for 
you to open up ports for them to scan the internal networks 
via vpn tunnel, and of course you're getting an outside 
opinion, but tools like nessus, you could setup a nessus 
client at various parts of your network subnet or your vlans 
and have those remote agents send back the findings to the 
nessus server (perhaps with mysql backend for later 
correlation analysis).

i say there is too many to choose from the menu, but 
choosing the resturant would depend on your budget and taste 
(or what you're used to, etc...).

just my .02

gene

Danny wrote:
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> I've not seen a comparison, but in my opinion remote scanning is a waste of time and money for large networks such as anything over a class C. 
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> Having someone do a full vulnerability scan remotely over your entire IP space takes a lot of time and a lot of bandwidth, if a company is on a T1 it could take several hours and may impact the performance of their corporate link. 
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> Having said that, if someone was to come up with a semi remote scanning option for a managed service it may be a little more feasible. By semi remote I mean the scanning company has an agent on the local LAN which handles the actual scanning and simply reports back to an offsite database for analysis. 
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> Currently we are using SecureScanNX from vigilante.com. This tool allow us to do full vuln scans of our entire network, 
> we have agents placed at various points of the network which handle the scanning for their network segments and report 
> back to a controlling terminal, doing this stops us from flooding our WAN/MAN links and keeps the scans times down 
> relatively low.
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> Cheers
> Danny
> Network Security Engineer
> Drexel University
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> - -----Original Message-----
> From: Alfred Huger [mailto:ah () securityfocus com] 
> Sent: Wednesday, February 26, 2003 4:06 PM
> To: pen-test () securityfocus com
> Subject: Online Scanning Services Vrs. Stand Alone Applications
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> Hey all,
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> I have a question, which is two fold. First can anyone point me to
> comparison articles of online scanners (such as Foundstone) vrs.
> standalone applications such as ISS? I am looking for technical
> comparisons not a treatise on the benefits of someone managing your
> scanning for you or not.
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> The second part of the question is, are their any technical advantages
> between the two setups? I understand this overlaps with the first question
> but I ask this after having searched for good writeups and came out with
> very little.
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> - -al
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> Alfred Huger
> Symantec Corp.
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