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Re: Political Analysis of Security Products


From: Patrick Oonk <patrick () pine nl>
Date: Wed, 6 Feb 2002 10:50:41 +0100

On Tue, Feb 05, 2002 at 09:39:04PM +0000, Rainer Duffner wrote:
R. DuFresne writes:


Marcus Ranum, if I recall correctly, has an outstanding reward for
anyone with proof that fw-1 was ever backdoored by the Israeli's, it
has never bee collected

 
Danger is not on this front.
The soft- and hardware to control the suveillance of telephone-calls
is partly built by companies that are either subcontractor of Mossad
or are rumoured to be "controlled" by Mossad.
TELCOs are concered by this, because, at least in Germany, every TELCO
has to have a wiretap-mechanism in place for Secret Service or other
Police-Forces.
These wiretaps must be (qua definitionem) undetectable by the victim
when used, and undetectable by the TELCO itself !
If one of these devices were backdoored (by an "enemy force"), the
integrity of the whole telecommunication infrastructure would be, well,
non-existant.
Of couse, the TELCOs also (or mostly, let's be honest) the high costs
associated with this system. 

I have no direct (English) link for this,
just this one:
http://www.heise.de/tp/deutsch/html/result.xhtml?url=/tp/deutsch/inhalt/te/9 
395/1.html&words=Geheimdienst 
but surf around the Heise
Telepolis site and get a feeling of just what is in stock for us... 

http://www.heise.de/tp/english/special/enfo/default.html 

<helicopters type=black> An Israeli company (Comverse) has worked together 
with the Mossad to tap the US govt according to a Foxnews report. 
I have collected links to the coverage of this at
http://www.security.nl/artikel.php3?id=2712. The article is in Dutch but
the links lead to english articles. The strange thing was that no-one
picked this news up, except for Foxnews. The coverage at Foxnews
'suddenly' disappeared. </helicopters>

        Patrick

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