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From: vlape at me.com (Vincent Lape)
Date: Mon, 11 May 2009 19:52:09 -0400
from the mfgr website. pri.co.uk he EU6/EU6V meters are part of the established Liberty family of products offering reliable and secure ?token-less? pay-as-you-use and credit options. In addition, these meters offer the option of remote communications and can be used for AMI/AMR data retrieval, remote consumer management and remote valve closure in emergency situations. Two variants: EU6v - prepayment/credit with shut-off valve EU6 ? credit only, without the shut-off valve. Based on U6/ 2-litre BS EN: 1359-compliant product with Ofgem approval. Meets PRS22 Type N, Zone 2 approved. Electronic prepayment using the Liberty keypad entry technology via an in-home display or via GSM
10 year battery life from a replaceable D-cell
Interrogation via an optical 1107 port Optional pulse output Valve opening operation approved to Safety Integrity Level 2 (SIL 2) using manual intervention Tamper logging includes: Magnetic fraud detection Tilt detection Battery removal detection The system can be configured to close the valve on detection of tamper attempts On May 11, 2009, at 7:17 PM, Robin Wood wrote:
2009/5/12 Vincent Lape <vlape at me.com>:funny thing is that the meter will shut services if tampered. DOS anyone?I thought it was illegal/generally not done to turn off someones services without a lot of effort to resolve an issue first. A supplier could get in all sorts of trouble for shutting down someones electricity and turning off some vital, life saving, device. When the first granny dies of cold in the winter because her gas and electricity were accidentally turned off remotely the stuff will really hit the fan. RobinOn May 11, 2009, at 6:55 PM, Robin Wood wrote:2009/5/11 Vincent Lape <vlape at me.com>:the meters in western PA use an inductive probe mounted on the outside of the home. the utility worker has to make contact with the probe which gives the relative position of the meter gauges. The power company has been testing some electric meters that transmit the data back via the power grid. I decided to research the meter shown on the video and its kinda cool. they can shut service remotely, you can pay from its keypad, seems to have all kinds of tamper protection. im trying to get ahold of a tech manualI can see a whole load of hackers getting into trouble with these meters. Traditional hackers just out of curiosity and nasty hackers from trying to defraud the system. I guess the cash saved by removing call centres and guys in vans will probably make up for the loss of revenue for the few people who do manage to hack the system. Let us know what you find out. RobinOn May 11, 2009, at 5:42 PM, Robin Wood wrote:Hi Some utility providers are looking at rolling out smart meters for gas and electricity which they can read remotely. Does anyone know how that works? What are they using to connect to the device to send out the data? If it is over your broadband then it won't be long till someone sniffs the packets and sends fake readings back, if it is wireless and they have a guy drive past then there are similar sniffing problems, you also have to worry about interference. They could have a GSM card in, in which case, how long till someone cracks one open and tries to use the card in a phone, I imagine it would be locked to a single number but people would try. I can't think of a secure and problem free way to do this. Any ideas? Here is a BBC video about the meters. http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/8040232.stm Robin _______________________________________________ Pauldotcom mailing list Pauldotcom at mail.pauldotcom.com http://mail.pauldotcom.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pauldotcom Main Web Site: http://pauldotcom.com_______________________________________________ Pauldotcom mailing list Pauldotcom at mail.pauldotcom.com http://mail.pauldotcom.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pauldotcom Main Web Site: http://pauldotcom.com_______________________________________________ Pauldotcom mailing list Pauldotcom at mail.pauldotcom.com http://mail.pauldotcom.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pauldotcom Main Web Site: http://pauldotcom.com_______________________________________________ Pauldotcom mailing list Pauldotcom at mail.pauldotcom.com http://mail.pauldotcom.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pauldotcom Main Web Site: http://pauldotcom.com_______________________________________________ Pauldotcom mailing list Pauldotcom at mail.pauldotcom.com http://mail.pauldotcom.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pauldotcom Main Web Site: http://pauldotcom.com
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