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Re: handling of Linux kernel vulnerabilities (was: CVE request - Linux kernel: VFAT slab-based buffer overflow)
From: Greg KH <greg () kroah com>
Date: Tue, 5 Mar 2013 09:20:49 +0800
On Mon, Mar 04, 2013 at 10:12:56PM +0100, Eric Lacombe wrote:
Hi, Le lundi 4 mars 2013 11:48:58, Greg KH a écrit :On Sun, Mar 03, 2013 at 10:39:30PM -0500, Michael Gilbert wrote:I was getting encouraged by the recent anger-centric posts, the "what is it that we're supposed to do better?" ones. That gave me some encouragement that there was the possibility of positive change, but the "we're not going to make users more unsafe by telling them about issues affecting them" is a persistence of the denial state. That logic completely violates the known idiom that knowledge is power: give users the knowledge that they need to protect themselves, and they will; starve them of that knowledge, and they remain vulnerable.That's a load of crap. Seriously, you know it only benefits the "bad guys" if I were to say, "This patch just went into Linus's tree that fixes a security problem that you can exploit in this manner". No user would have a chance to fix their systems before the vulnerability was added to the "ultra-sploit" tool and everyone would have their systems trashed.I think there's a difference between disclosing the vulnerability and disclosing it with a related exploit. The first one allows to fulfill what Michael Gilbert explains without the consequences that you focus on.
You really think there is a difference? I assert that there is none, and history has shown that this is the case, but feel free to prove me wrong.
And as Michael Gilbert insisted on, I deeply think that the asymmetry of the problem should be taken into account for defining the way of dealing with security flaws.
Then why do we even have the linux-distros list at all? greg k-h
Current thread:
- Re: CVE request - Linux kernel: VFAT slab-based buffer overflow, (continued)
- Re: CVE request - Linux kernel: VFAT slab-based buffer overflow Eugene Teo (Feb 28)
- Re: CVE request - Linux kernel: VFAT slab-based buffer overflow Petr Matousek (Feb 27)
- Re: CVE request - Linux kernel: VFAT slab-based buffer overflow Greg KH (Feb 27)
- handling of Linux kernel vulnerabilities (was: CVE request - Linux kernel: VFAT slab-based buffer overflow) Solar Designer (Mar 03)
- Re: handling of Linux kernel vulnerabilities (was: CVE request - Linux kernel: VFAT slab-based buffer overflow) Greg KH (Mar 03)
- Re: handling of Linux kernel vulnerabilities (was: CVE request - Linux kernel: VFAT slab-based buffer overflow) Solar Designer (Mar 03)
- Re: handling of Linux kernel vulnerabilities (was: CVE request - Linux kernel: VFAT slab-based buffer overflow) Greg KH (Mar 03)
- Re: handling of Linux kernel vulnerabilities (was: CVE request - Linux kernel: VFAT slab-based buffer overflow) Michael Gilbert (Mar 03)
- Re: handling of Linux kernel vulnerabilities (was: CVE request - Linux kernel: VFAT slab-based buffer overflow) Greg KH (Mar 03)
- Re: handling of Linux kernel vulnerabilities (was: CVE request - Linux kernel: VFAT slab-based buffer overflow) Eric Lacombe (Mar 04)
- Re: handling of Linux kernel vulnerabilities (was: CVE request - Linux kernel: VFAT slab-based buffer overflow) Greg KH (Mar 04)
- Re: handling of Linux kernel vulnerabilities Kurt Seifried (Mar 04)
- Re: handling of Linux kernel vulnerabilities Solar Designer (Mar 04)
- Re: handling of Linux kernel vulnerabilities Noel Butler (Mar 05)
- Re: handling of Linux kernel vulnerabilities Solar Designer (Mar 05)
- Re: handling of Linux kernel vulnerabilities Alton Moore (Mar 05)
- Re: handling of Linux kernel vulnerabilities (was: CVE request - Linux kernel: VFAT slab-based buffer overflow) Eric Lacombe (Mar 05)
- Re: handling of Linux kernel vulnerabilities Andreas Ericsson (Mar 04)
- Re: CVE request - Linux kernel: VFAT slab-based buffer overflow Yves-Alexis Perez (Feb 27)
- Re: CVE request - Linux kernel: VFAT slab-based buffer overflow Greg KH (Feb 27)
- Re: CVE request - Linux kernel: VFAT slab-based buffer overflow Jason A. Donenfeld (Feb 27)