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Vint Cerf Re: Backward Compatibility Re: IPv4 address block


From: "Abraham Y. Chen" <aychen () avinta com>
Date: Sat, 13 Jan 2024 07:35:09 -0500

Hi, Tom:

1)        " ...  Implying that Vint Cerf ever said anything about EzIP ... ":

    FYI - Please see the below copy of a partial eMail thread. Bold, red colored and Italicized letters are to focus on the topic.

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InternetPolicy () eList ISOC.orgeMail thread

On 2021-10-18 16:34, Abraham Y. Chen wrote:

Dear Vint:

Yes, this is one perspective for visualizing the EzIP proposal.

Thanks,

Abe (2021-10-18 16:33 EDT)

 Re: [Internet Policy] 202110180800.AYC Re: Platform self-regulation

 On 2021-10-18 10:39, */vinton cerf/* wrote:

sounds like /*eZIP*/is basically an */overlay/*network.

/*v*/

On Mon, Oct 18, 2021 at 8:33 AM Abraham Y. Chen via InternetPolicy <internetpolicy () elists isoc org> wrote:

Hi, Scott:

 0)    Thanks for your research.

 1)    Both SCION (based on my best understanding) and our work named EzIP (phonetic for Easy IPv4) are technical solutions for improving the Internet from its foundation level (the architecture). There are many implications with such schemes including social and legal if one looks into them.

 2)    As I responded to Gene's questions (See my eMail with subject line tag: "202110171756.AYC"), the SCION approach implements certain restrictions ......

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2)    Prior to the above, we were quite unsure about what our team was doing. So, I purposely avoided having any contact with Vint. We had been describing the EzIP's RANs (Regional Area Networks) as "kites floating in the air over an geographic area anchored by an IPv4 address based cord". Although visually clear, it was too wordy. By using one concise word, */overlay/*, Vint eloquently classified the EzIP network in terminology sense. It opened our eyes about what were the implications of EzIP and what could be the interactions with respect to the existing Internet, because EzIP was a non-interfering enhancement to an existing system which was a text book case of systems engineering.

Hope the above clears the air.


Regards,


Abe (2024-01-13 07:34)


On 2024-01-12 19:24, Tom Beecher wrote:

I go into my cave to finish the todo list for the week, and I come out to see Mr. Chen :
- Telling Randy Bush he should "read some history" on IPv6
- Implying that Vint Cerf ever said anything about EzIP

Fairly impressive sequence of self ownage.

On Fri, Jan 12, 2024 at 5:46 PM Randy Bush <randy () psg com> wrote:



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