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Re: Lossy cogent p2p experiences?
From: David Bass <davidbass570 () gmail com>
Date: Wed, 6 Sep 2023 16:55:16 -0400
Per packet LB is one of those ideas that at a conceptual level are great, but in practice are obvious that they’re out of touch with reality. Kind of like the EIGRP protocol from Cisco and using the load, reliability, and MTU metrics. On Wed, Sep 6, 2023 at 1:13 PM Mark Tinka <mark@tinka.africa> wrote:
On 9/6/23 18:52, Tom Beecher wrote:Well, not exactly the same thing. (But it's my mistake, I was referring to L3 balancing, not L2 interface stuff.)Fair enough.load-balance per-packet will cause massive reordering, because it's random spray , caring about nothing except equal loading of the members. It's a last resort option that will cause tons of reordering. (And they call that out quite clearly in docs.) If you don't care about reordering it's great. load-balance adaptive generally did a decent enough job last time I used it much.Yep, pretty much my experience too.stateful was hit or miss ; sometimes it tested amazing, other times not so much. But it wasn't a primary requirement so I never dove into whyNever tried stateful. Moving 802.1Q trunk from N x 10Gbps LAG's to native 100Gbps links resolved this load balancing conundrum for us. Of course, it works well because we spread these router<=>switch links across several 100Gbps ports, so no single trunk is ever that busy, even for customers buying N x 10Gbps services. Mark.
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- Re: Lossy cogent p2p experiences?, (continued)
- Re: Lossy cogent p2p experiences? Saku Ytti (Sep 06)
- Re: Lossy cogent p2p experiences? William Herrin (Sep 06)
- Re: Lossy cogent p2p experiences? Masataka Ohta (Sep 06)
- Re: Lossy cogent p2p experiences? Benny Lyne Amorsen (Sep 06)
- Re: Lossy cogent p2p experiences? Saku Ytti (Sep 06)
- Re: Lossy cogent p2p experiences? Tom Beecher (Sep 06)
- Re: Lossy cogent p2p experiences? Mark Tinka (Sep 06)
- RE: Lossy cogent p2p experiences? Brian Turnbow via NANOG (Sep 06)
- Re: Lossy cogent p2p experiences? Tom Beecher (Sep 06)
- Re: Lossy cogent p2p experiences? Mark Tinka (Sep 06)
- Re: Lossy cogent p2p experiences? David Bass (Sep 06)
- Re: Lossy cogent p2p experiences? Saku Ytti (Sep 07)
- Re: Lossy cogent p2p experiences? Mark Tinka (Sep 07)
- Re: Lossy cogent p2p experiences? Fred Baker (Sep 08)
- Re: Lossy cogent p2p experiences? Masataka Ohta (Sep 07)
- Re: Lossy cogent p2p experiences? Benny Lyne Amorsen (Sep 07)
- Re: Lossy cogent p2p experiences? Saku Ytti (Sep 07)
- Re: Lossy cogent p2p experiences? Masataka Ohta (Sep 07)
- Re: Lossy cogent p2p experiences? Mark Tinka (Sep 07)
- Re: Lossy cogent p2p experiences? Saku Ytti (Sep 07)
- Re: Lossy cogent p2p experiences? Benny Lyne Amorsen (Sep 09)