Re: maximum ipv4 bgp prefix length of /24 ?

[VOLKAN SALİH <volkan.salih.06 () gmail com>]

I dont even have money for food/living.

i am working poor.

poverty line is 40 thousands turkish liras here..

but for a green card, I can carve mr leber or mr schaeffer settlement-free!

_*JK!*_

lucifer told me to ask for green card, too.. ;P

you guys become rich this way.. by playing penny pincher.

I asked global firms like Huawei, not some local company called ADAMS!

RIB, FIB doesnt matter, internet is our future, so lets invest in it.


29.09.2023 20:13 tarihinde Jason Baugher yazdı:
> Let me see if I can summarize, tell me where I’m wrong…
>
> You: Give me this for free, give me that for free, sponsor me, why 
> isn’t HE giving me something for free, everyone else should spend 
> money to upgrade infrastructure to handle my request for /27, but I 
> shouldn’t have to pay for anything…
>
> Jason
>
> *From:*NANOG <nanog-bounces+jasonbaugher=adamstel.com () nanog org> *On 
> Behalf Of *VOLKAN SALIH
> *Sent:* Friday, September 29, 2023 2:45 AM
> *To:* Vasilenko Eduard <vasilenko.eduard () huawei com>; Owen DeLong 
> <owen () delong com>
> *Cc:* nanog () nanog org
> *Subject:* Re: maximum ipv4 bgp prefix length of /24 ?
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> I was also going to ask if anyone / any company can sponsor (feeless) 
> IPv4 /24 prefix for my educational research network? (as209395)
>
> We do not do or allow SPAM/spoofing and other illegal stuff, we have 
> RPKI records and check RPKI of BGP peers.
>
> We also consider to have BGP session with HE.net and CogentCo in the 
> future, so we can re-announce their single-homed prefixes to each 
> other, as charity. For the good of everyone on the internet..
>
> Mr. M.Leber from He.net also stopped feeless BGP tunnel service, as he 
> has not seen financial benefit, while still talking about 
> community-give-back?! And he still seeks feeless peering from 
> CogentCo, you get what you give.whatever goes around comes around
>
> Thanks for reading, best regards and wishes
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> 29.09.2023 09:57 tarihinde Vasilenko Eduard yazdı:
>
>     Well, it depends.
>
>     The question below was evidently related to business.
>
>     IPv6 does not have yet a normal way of multihoming for PA prefixes.
>
>     If IETF (and some OTTs) would win blocking NAT66,
>
>     Then /48 propoisiton is the proposition for PA (to support
>     multihoming).
>
>     Unfortunately, it is at least a 10M global routing table as it has
>     been shown by Brian Carpenter.
>
>     Reminder, The IPv6 scale on all routers is 2x smaller (if people
>     would use DHCP and longer than/64 then the scale would drop 2x
>     additionally).
>
>     Hence, /48 proposition may become 20x worse for scale than
>     proposed initially in this thread.
>
>     Eduard
>
>     *From:*NANOG
>     [mailto:nanog-bounces+vasilenko.eduard=huawei.com () nanog org
>     <mailto:nanog-bounces+vasilenko.eduard=huawei.com () nanog org>] *On
>     Behalf Of *Owen DeLong via NANOG
>     *Sent:* Friday, September 29, 2023 7:11 AM
>     *To:* VOLKAN SALİH <volkan.salih.06 () gmail com>
>     <mailto:volkan.salih.06 () gmail com>
>     *Cc:* nanog () nanog org
>     *Subject:* Re: maximum ipv4 bgp prefix length of /24 ?
>
>     Wouldn’t /48s be a better solution to this need?
>
>     Owen
>
>
>
>
>         On Sep 28, 2023, at 14:25, VOLKAN SALİH
>         <volkan.salih.06 () gmail com> wrote:
>
>         hello,
>
>         I believe, ISPs should also allow ipv4 prefixes with length
>         between /25-/27 instead of limiting maximum length to /24..
>
>         I also believe that RIRs and LIRs should allocate /27s which
>         has 32 IPv4 address. considering IPv4 world is now mostly
>         NAT'ed, 32 IPv4s are sufficient for most of the small and
>         medium sized organizations and also home office workers like
>         youtubers, and professional gamers and webmasters!
>
>         It is because BGP research and experiment networks can not get
>         /24 due to high IPv4 prices, but they have to get an IPv4
>         prefix to learn BGP in IPv4 world.
>
>         What do you think about this?
>
>         What could be done here?
>
>         Is it unacceptable; considering most big networks that do
>         full-table-routing also use multi-core routers with lots of
>         RAM? those would probably handle /27s and while small networks
>         mostly use default routing, it should be reasonable to allow
>         /25-/27?
>
>         Thanks for reading, regards..
>
>
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