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Re: Lossy cogent p2p experiences?
From: Saku Ytti <saku () ytti fi>
Date: Sun, 10 Sep 2023 10:39:07 +0300
On Sat, 9 Sept 2023 at 21:36, Benny Lyne Amorsen <benny+usenet () amorsen dk> wrote:
The Linux TCP stack does not immediately start backing off when it encounters packet reordering. In the server world, packet-based round-robin is a fairly common interface bonding strategy, with the accompanying reordering, and generally it performs great.
If you have Linux - 1RU cat-or-such - Router - Internet Mostly round-robin between Linux-1RU is gonna work, because it satisfies the a) non congested b) equal rtt c) non-distributed (single pipeline ASIC switch, honoring ingress order on egress), requirements. But it is quite a special case, and of course there is only a round-robin on one link in one direction. Between 3.6-4.4 all multipath in Linux was broken, and I still to this day help people with problems on multipath complaining it doesn't perform (in LAN!). 3.6 introduced FIB to replace flow-cache, and made multipath essentially random 4.4 replaced random with hash When I ask them 'do you see reordering', people mostly reply 'no', because they look at PCAP and it doesn't look important to the human observer, it is such an insignificant amount.. Invariable problem goes away with hashing. (netstat -s is better than intuition on PCAP). -- ++ytti
Current thread:
- Re: Lossy cogent p2p experiences?, (continued)
- Re: Lossy cogent p2p experiences? Benny Lyne Amorsen (Sep 07)
- Re: Lossy cogent p2p experiences? Saku Ytti (Sep 07)
- Re: Lossy cogent p2p experiences? Masataka Ohta (Sep 07)
- Re: Lossy cogent p2p experiences? Mark Tinka (Sep 07)
- Re: Lossy cogent p2p experiences? Saku Ytti (Sep 07)
- Re: Lossy cogent p2p experiences? Benny Lyne Amorsen (Sep 09)
- Re: Lossy cogent p2p experiences? Randy Bush (Sep 09)
- Re: Lossy cogent p2p experiences? Mark Tinka (Sep 09)
- Re: Lossy cogent p2p experiences? Dave Cohen (Sep 09)
- Re: Lossy cogent p2p experiences? Mark Tinka (Sep 09)
- Re: Lossy cogent p2p experiences? Saku Ytti (Sep 10)
- Re: Lossy cogent p2p experiences? Mark Tinka (Sep 06)
- Re: Lossy cogent p2p experiences? Mark Tinka (Sep 06)
- Re: Lossy cogent p2p experiences? Masataka Ohta (Sep 06)
- Re: Lossy cogent p2p experiences? Nick Hilliard (Sep 03)
- Re: Lossy cogent p2p experiences? Masataka Ohta (Sep 03)
- Re: Lossy cogent p2p experiences? Nick Hilliard (Sep 03)
- Re: Lossy cogent p2p experiences? Masataka Ohta (Sep 03)
- Re: Lossy cogent p2p experiences? Nick Hilliard (Sep 02)
- Re: Lossy cogent p2p experiences? Mark Tinka (Sep 01)
- Re: Lossy cogent p2p experiences? David Hubbard (Sep 01)