Re: CPE/NID options

[Ryan Hamel <ryan () rkhtech org>]

The problem with using switches as a CPE device is the lack of RFC2544 (or equivalent) testing, and monitoring of the 
complete circuit with TWAMP. Both of which are used to ensure compliance with an SLA.

Ryan Hamel

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To: Christopher Hawker <chris () thesysadmin au>
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Subject: Re: CPE/NID options

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When you say fiber, is it Ethernet?  If you just want layer 2 and a media converter, Mikrotik is a super good answer.

On Thu, Nov 23, 2023 at 12:19 AM Christopher Hawker <chris () thesysadmin au<mailto:chris () thesysadmin au>> wrote:
Hi Ross,

I've found these Mikrotik devices to be excellent and reliable:

CRS310-8G+2S+IN: 8 x 2.5G copper ethernet ports, 2 x SFP+ cages, rack-mountable. Uses a single DC barrel-jack. 
https://mikrotik.com/product/crs310_8g_2s_in
CRS305-1G-4S+IN: 4 x SFP+ cages, dual DC barrel-jack ports for redundant power, 1 x 1G copper ethernet port for OOB 
management. https://mikrotik.com/product/crs305_1g_4s_in
CRS310-1G-5S-4S+OUT: 4 x SFP+ cages, 5 x SFP cages, 1 x 1G copper ethernet port for OOB management, can be mounted 
outdoors. https://mikrotik.com/product/netfiber_9

MSRP on all three are at or below $249.00 so are priced quite reasonably. If you only need SFP+ cages I'd opt for the 
CRS305-1G-4S+IN.

Regards,
Christopher Hawker


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To: North American Network Operators' Group <nanog () nanog org<mailto:nanog () nanog org>>
Subject: CPE/NID options

I'm evaluating CPEs for one of my clients, a regional ISP. Currently, we're terminating the customer's service (L3) on 
our upstream equipment and extending it over our own fiber to the customer's premise, where it lands in a Juniper 
EX2200 or EX2300.

At a previous job, I used Accedian's ANTs on the customer prem side. I like the ANT because it has a small footprint 
with only 2 ports, it's passively cooled, it's very simple to operate, it's controlled centrally, etc. Unfortunately, 
when I reached out to Accedian, they insisted that the controller (which is required) started at $30k, which is a 
non-starter for us.

I'm not aware of any other products like this. Does anyone have a recommendation for a simple L2* device to deploy to 
customer premises? Not necessarily the exact same thing, but something similarly-featured would be ideal.

*I'm not sure if the ANT is exactly "layer 2", but I don't know what else to call it.