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RE: Routed optical networks
From: Vasilenko Eduard via NANOG <nanog () nanog org>
Date: Thu, 4 May 2023 12:29:41 +0000
The economics are such these days that in many circumstances, bean counters don't want to hear about payback in years, they want to hear it in quarters. Short term financial thinking is dominant.
True. The industry is on decline. On the way to other utilities. But then any project is a challenge. Not just fiber that may be cheaper for Metro than DWDM. Eduard From: Tom Beecher [mailto:beecher () beecher cc] Sent: Thursday, May 4, 2023 3:26 PM To: Vasilenko Eduard <vasilenko.eduard () huawei com> Cc: Denis Fondras <xxnog () ledeuns net>; nanog () nanog org Subject: Re: Routed optical networks Well, ISP is typically plan something for a year. It is more than enough for both. s/more/should be/ The economics are such these days that in many circumstances, bean counters don't want to hear about payback in years, they want to hear it in quarters. Short term financial thinking is dominant. On Thu, May 4, 2023 at 6:59 AM Vasilenko Eduard via NANOG <nanog () nanog org<mailto:nanog () nanog org>> wrote: Well, ISP is typically plan something for a year. It is more than enough for both. Funny, that with the current lead times for electronics, Fiber could be faster. Of course, it is a temporary glitch. Ed/ -----Original Message----- From: NANOG [mailto:nanog-bounces+vasilenko.eduard<mailto:nanog-bounces%2Bvasilenko.eduard>=huawei.com () nanog org<mailto:huawei.com () nanog org>] On Behalf Of Denis Fondras Sent: Thursday, May 4, 2023 12:41 PM To: nanog () nanog org<mailto:nanog () nanog org> Subject: Re: Routed optical networks Le Wed, May 03, 2023 at 06:20:48AM +0000, Vasilenko Eduard via NANOG a écrit :
Additionally, I am sure that in many countries/Metro it is cheaper to lay down a new fiber than to provision DWDM, even if it is a pizza box. The colored interface is still very expensive. Of course, there are some Cities (not “towns”) where it is very expensive or maybe even impossible to lay down a new fiber. Yes, in the majority of cases, it is cheaper to lay down fiber.
You may also take into account the time to deliver. Laying fiber takes much more time than plugging a colored optic.
Current thread:
- Re: Routed optical networks, (continued)
- Re: Routed optical networks Jared Mauch (May 04)
- Re: Routed optical networks Mark Tinka (May 04)
- RE: Routed optical networks Vasilenko Eduard via NANOG (May 04)
- Re: Routed optical networks Mark Tinka (May 04)
- RE: Routed optical networks Vasilenko Eduard via NANOG (May 04)
- Re: Routed optical networks Ge DUPIN (May 04)
- Re: Routed optical networks Mark Tinka (May 04)
- Re: Routed optical networks Mike Hammett (May 05)
- Re: Routed optical networks Mark Tinka (May 05)
- Re: Routed optical networks Tom Beecher (May 04)
- RE: Routed optical networks Vasilenko Eduard via NANOG (May 04)
- Re: Routed optical networks Etienne-Victor Depasquale via NANOG (May 02)
- Re: Routed optical networks Mark Tinka (May 02)
- Re: Routed optical networks Mark Tinka (May 04)
- Re: Routed optical networks Phil Bedard (May 08)
- Re: Routed optical networks Mark Tinka (May 08)
- Re: Routed optical networks Phil Bedard (May 09)
- Re: Routed optical networks Mark Tinka (May 09)