Re: Northern Virginia has had enough with data centers

[Ron Yokubaitis via NANOG <nanog () nanog org>]

Dalles: government subsidized Hydroelectric Power, that’s why.

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> On Jun 26, 2023, at 7:37 PM, Michael Thomas <mike () mtcc com> wrote:
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> > On 6/24/23 5:28 AM, Owen DeLong wrote:
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> > > > On Jun 23, 2023, at 18:04, Michael Thomas <mike () mtcc com> wrote:
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> > > > On 6/23/23 4:01 PM, 
> > > > https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__Delong.com&d=DwIDaQ&c=euGZstcaTDllvimEN8b7jXrwqOf-v5A_CdpgnVfiiMM&r=cGrDT0liF-gD_o4EJ7o_qg&m=Z1ElQJ6RtDdrUgH7UwCpBHojWq1Iyp4CM49TsykDfXM&s=BUfOgzy41EDHyDbK_xBslELDt9Xofk6_YBR4nLTQGmo&e=
> > > >  via NANOG wrote:
> > > > The electric grid complaints are about the demand on the grid making the entire region less stable and proposed 
> > > > construction of new high-voltage tower corridors for data centers.
> > > > Yeah, I can kind of understand those, but as long as the grid is properly planned, it really shouldn’t have a 
> > > > destabilizing effect. In fact, many datacenter in California do CoGen and end up providing additional grid 
> > > > stability.
> > > Uh, ::cough:: PGE ::cough::
> > >
> > > I so wanted to schadenfreude so bad with Texas and their shitty grid, but then remembered where I live.
> > >
> > > Mike
> > What’s not to love about a power company that literally qualifies as a recidivist felon?
> >
> > It is my sincere hope to finish my mortgage and then start putting money towards electrical independence. (Wind, 
> > more solar, batteries, and disconnecting Persistent Graft and Extortion).
> I'm waiting on a software upgrade for my inverter to hook up a generator to refill the battery when it gets too low. 
> Not off the grid, but not at the mercy of PGE's fuckery.
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> How many datacenters are in Norcal? I imagine that it's a lot, but PGE's rates are like 2x the rest of the country. 
> At least for residential. I always got a kick of Google putting a datacenter in the Dalles in Oregon -- basically 
> mainlining the Columbia river.
>
> Mike