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Re: Are we back to the 2000's again?


From: Michael Thomas <mike () mtcc com>
Date: Sat, 3 Jun 2023 16:09:40 -0700


On 6/3/23 4:01 PM, William Herrin wrote:
On Sat, Jun 3, 2023 at 2:51 PM Mel Beckman <mel () beckman org> wrote:
It’s like blaming water companies for people stealing boats :)
It's been a while and the article is light on the facts of the case,
but IIRC what happened was: RIAA made some DMCA complaints to Cox. Cox
decided that since they were the network rather than the host, they
couldn't "remove" the offending material, wouldn't cut the user's
access and, because they have such respect for customer privacy,
wouldn't tell the RIAA who the customers were unless RIAA subpoenaed
them under a John Doe suit.

The court decided that Cox's behavior was sufficient to waive the
DMCA's liability shield for Internet providers and off they went to
trial.

How can the RIAA even know? I mean, are they putting up honey pots or something?

Mike


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