Alternative Re: ipv4/25s and above

["Abraham Y. Chen" <aychen () avinta com>]

Dear Owen:

1) "... Africa ... They don’t really have a lot of alternatives. ...": 
Actually, there is, simple and in plain sight. Please have a look at the 
below IETF Draft:

https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-chen-ati-adaptive-ipv4-address-space

2)  If this looks a bit too technical due to the nature of such a 
document, there is a distilled version that provides a bird-eye's view 
of the solution:

https://www.avinta.com/phoenix-1/home/RevampTheInternet.pdf

3)  All of the above can start from making use of the 240/4 netblock as 
a reusable (by region / country) unicast IP address resources that could 
be accomplished by as simple as commenting out one line of the existing 
network router program code. I will be glad to go into the specifics if 
you can bring their attention to this almost mystic topic.

Regards,


Abe (2022-11-19 22:50 EST)


On 2022-11-18 18:20, Owen DeLong via NANOG wrote:
> > On Nov 18, 2022, at 03:44, Joe Maimon <jmaimon () jmaimon com> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > Mark Tinka wrote:
> > > On 11/17/22 19:55, Joe Maimon wrote:
> > >
> > > > You could instead use a /31.
> > > We could, but many of our DIA customers have all manner of CPE's that may or may not support this. Having unique 
> > > designs per customer does not scale well.
> > its almost 2023. /31 support is easily mandatory. You should make it mandatory.
> Much of Africa in 2023 runs on what the US put into the resale market in the late 1990s, tragically.
>
> > Its 2023, your folk should be able to handle addressing more advanced than from the 90s. And your betting the future on 
> > IPv6?
> They don’t really have a lot of alternatives.
>
> > > To be honest, we'll keep using IPv4 for as long as we have it, and for as long as we can get it from AFRINIC. But it's 
> > > not where we are betting the farm - that is for IPv6.
> And yet you wonder why I consider AFRINIC’s artificial extension of the free pool through draconian austerity measures 
> to be a global problem?
>
> > Its on Afrinic to try and preserve their pool if they wish to by doing things such as getting it across that progress 
> > in addressing efficiency is an important consideration in fulfilling requests for additional resources.
> Instead of this, they’re mostly ignoring policy, implementing draconian restrictions on people getting space from the 
> free pool, and buying into various forms of reality avoidance.
>
> > But see the crux above. If your RiR isnt frowning on such behavior then its poor strategy to implement it.
> So far, AFRINIC has given a complete pass to Tinka’s organization and their documented excessive unused address space 
> despite policy that prohibits them from doing so. However, AFRINIC management and board seem to have extreme difficulty 
> with reading their governing documents in anything resembling a logical interpretation.
>
> Owen


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