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Re: Let's Focus on Moving Forward Re: V6 still not supported
From: Masataka Ohta <mohta () necom830 hpcl titech ac jp>
Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2022 09:51:44 +0900
Owen DeLong wrote:
As I repeatedly pointed out, end to end NAT is clean preserving the universal peer to peer nature of the Internet.Nope… It really isn’t.
Wrong.
The problem of audit trail opacity is still a major issue with any form of stateful NAT.
How poorly you understand NAT. As I wrote in my draft: Depending on how port numbers are shared, there are static and dynamic E2ENAT or combinations of them. With static E2ENAT, an end host is assigned port numbers statically, which is necessary for a server with a stable IP address and a port number. static E2ENAT is not, with your questionable terminology, stateful. It is even possible to construct legacy NAT which dynamically, thus statefully, assign ports only from some static range, which does not need state maintenance, for each private IP address. Masataka Ohta
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- Re: Let's Focus on Moving Forward Re: V6 still not supported Owen DeLong via NANOG (Mar 31)
- Re: Let's Focus on Moving Forward Re: V6 still not supported Masataka Ohta (Mar 31)
- Re: Let's Focus on Moving Forward Re: V6 still not supported Owen DeLong via NANOG (Mar 31)
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