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Re: The role of Internet governance in sanctions
From: Mel Beckman <mel () beckman org>
Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2022 20:29:12 +0000
You’ve started implementation so a policy with virtually no public input on the day after making your proposal public. I’m pretty sure that’s not how the Internet works. -mel On Mar 10, 2022, at 11:38 AM, Bill Woodcock <woody () pch net> wrote: On Mar 10, 2022, at 5:42 PM, Mel Beckman <mel () beckman org> wrote: I don’t understand your comment. I don’t think our statements are the same at all. Perhaps not. My goal is to minimize Internet disconnection. Maybe that’s not your goal. I was trying to give what you wrote the most generous possible interpretation. You, on the other hand, seem to be referring to — correct me if I’m wrong — sovereign countries pulling the plug on their Internet access. Perhaps you’re misunderstanding, it’s difficult to tell. The current problem is “sovereign countries” disconnecting (or attempting to disconnect) other countries. That’s a lot of disconnection. That’s bad for people, and bad for business. I’m against that. It’s relatively simple. The proposal you signed doesn’t address that, that I can see. Perhaps read it again, then, since that’s the only thing it talks about. Reducing the amount of disconnection from whole countries to as near zero as can be achieved in the presence of “sovereign countries." Slow your roll. This is nowhere near ready for “operationalization”, as the several comments here objecting to the thing testifies. Putting aside matters of fact... Because a couple of people objecting to a document they haven’t actually read means that the rest of the industry has to put up with national-level disconnection? I’m pretty sure that’s not how the Internet works. But, you seem pretty certain you understand how things work better than I do. Perhaps you can explain it to us. -Bill
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- The role of Internet governance in sanctions Bill Woodcock (Mar 10)
- Re: The role of Internet governance in sanctions Randy Bush (Mar 10)
- Re: The role of Internet governance in sanctions Bill Woodcock (Mar 10)
- Re: The role of Internet governance in sanctions Randy Bush (Mar 10)
- Re: The role of Internet governance in sanctions Mel Beckman (Mar 10)
- Re: The role of Internet governance in sanctions jim deleskie (Mar 10)
- Re: The role of Internet governance in sanctions Michael Hallgren (Mar 10)
- Re: The role of Internet governance in sanctions Bill Woodcock (Mar 10)
- Re: The role of Internet governance in sanctions Mel Beckman (Mar 10)
- Re: The role of Internet governance in sanctions Bill Woodcock (Mar 10)
- Re: The role of Internet governance in sanctions Mel Beckman (Mar 10)
- RE: The role of Internet governance in sanctions Brandon Price (Mar 10)
- The role of Internet governance in sanctions Sylvain Baya (Mar 11)
- Re: The role of Internet governance in sanctions Mel Beckman (Mar 11)
- Re: The role of Internet governance in sanctions Bill Woodcock (Mar 10)
- Re: The role of Internet governance in sanctions Randy Bush (Mar 10)
- Re: The role of Internet governance in sanctions Tom Beecher (Mar 10)
- Re: The role of Internet governance in sanctions Mel Beckman (Mar 10)
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