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Re: CC: s to Non List Members (was Re: 202203080924.AYC Re: 202203071610.AYC Re: Making Use of 240/4 NetBlock)
From: Tom Beecher <beecher () beecher cc>
Date: Tue, 8 Mar 2022 19:25:19 -0500
Is it not past time we admit that we have no real idea what the schedule or level of effort will be for making IPv6 ubiquitous? This year it was more than last year and next year it'll probably be more than this year. The more precise predictions all seem to have fallen flat.
The only way IPv6 will ever be ubiquitous is if there comes a time where there is some forcing event that requires it to be. Unless that occurs, people will continue to spend time and energy coming up with ways to squeeze the blood out of v4 that could have been used to get v6 going instead. I don't foresee anything changing for most of the rest of our careers, and possibly the next generation behind us. On Tue, Mar 8, 2022 at 4:13 PM William Herrin <bill () herrin us> wrote:
On Tue, Mar 8, 2022 at 12:34 PM John Levine <johnl () iecc com> wrote:FWIW, I also don't think that repurposing 240/4 is a good idea. To beuseful it would requirethat every host on the Internet update its network stack,Hi John, That's incorrect and obviously so. While repurposing 240/4 as general purpose Internet addresses might require that level of effort, other uses such as local LAN addressing would only require the equipment on that one lan to be updated -- a much more attainable goal. Reallocating 240/4 as unpurposed unicast address space would allow some standards-compliant uses to become practical before others. A few quite quickly.which would take on the order of a decade, to free up some space that would likely be depleted in a yearor two. It's basicallythe same amount of work as getting everything to work on IPv6.Is it not past time we admit that we have no real idea what the schedule or level of effort will be for making IPv6 ubiquitous? This year it was more than last year and next year it'll probably be more than this year. The more precise predictions all seem to have fallen flat. Regards, Bill Herrin -- William Herrin bill () herrin us https://bill.herrin.us/
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- 202203071610.AYC Re: Making Use of 240/4 NetBlock Abraham Y. Chen (Mar 08)
- Re: 202203071610.AYC Re: Making Use of 240/4 NetBlock Tom Beecher (Mar 08)
- 202203080924.AYC Re: 202203071610.AYC Re: Making Use of 240/4 NetBlock Abraham Y. Chen (Mar 08)
- CC:s to Non List Members (was Re: 202203080924.AYC Re: 202203071610.AYC Re: Making Use of 240/4 NetBlock) Anne Mitchell (Mar 08)
- Re: CC: s to Non List Members (was Re: 202203080924.AYC Re: 202203071610.AYC Re: Making Use of 240/4 NetBlock) John Levine (Mar 08)
- Re: CC: s to Non List Members (was Re: 202203080924.AYC Re: 202203071610.AYC Re: Making Use of 240/4 NetBlock) William Herrin (Mar 08)
- Re: CC: s to Non List Members (was Re: 202203080924.AYC Re: 202203071610.AYC Re: Making Use of 240/4 NetBlock) John Levine (Mar 08)
- Re: CC: s to Non List Members (was Re: 202203080924.AYC Re: 202203071610.AYC Re: Making Use of 240/4 NetBlock) John Kristoff (Mar 08)
- Re: CC: s to Non List Members (was Re: 202203080924.AYC Re: 202203071610.AYC Re: Making Use of 240/4 NetBlock) Masataka Ohta (Mar 08)
- Re: CC: s to Non List Members (was Re: 202203080924.AYC Re: 202203071610.AYC Re: Making Use of 240/4 NetBlock) Tom Beecher (Mar 08)
- Re: CC: s to Non List Members (was Re: 202203080924.AYC Re: 202203071610.AYC Re: Making Use of 240/4 NetBlock) Nathan Angelacos (Mar 08)
- Re: CC: s to Non List Members (was Re: 202203080924.AYC Re: 202203071610.AYC Re: Making Use of 240/4 NetBlock) John R. Levine (Mar 08)
- Re: CC: s to Non List Members (was Re: 202203080924.AYC Re: 202203071610.AYC Re: Making Use of 240/4 NetBlock) Seth David Schoen (Mar 08)
- Re: CC: s to Non List Members (was Re: 202203080924.AYC Re: 202203071610.AYC Re: Making Use of 240/4 NetBlock) Owen DeLong via NANOG (Mar 08)
- Re: CC: s to Non List Members (was Re: 202203080924.AYC Re: 202203071610.AYC Re: Making Use of 240/4 NetBlock) Joe Maimon (Mar 10)
- 202203080924.AYC Re: 202203071610.AYC Re: Making Use of 240/4 NetBlock Abraham Y. Chen (Mar 08)
- Re: CC: s to Non List Members (was Re: 202203080924.AYC Re: 202203071610.AYC Re: Making Use of 240/4 NetBlock) Mark Andrews (Mar 08)
- Re: CC: s to Non List Members (was Re: 202203080924.AYC Re: 202203071610.AYC Re: Making Use of 240/4 NetBlock) Dave Taht (Mar 08)
- Re: 202203071610.AYC Re: Making Use of 240/4 NetBlock Tom Beecher (Mar 08)
- Re: CC: s to Non List Members (was Re: 202203080924.AYC Re: 202203071610.AYC Re: Making Use of 240/4 NetBlock) Tom Hill (Mar 09)
- Re: CC: s to Non List Members (was Re: 202203080924.AYC Re: 202203071610.AYC Re: Making Use of 240/4 NetBlock) Joe Maimon (Mar 10)
- Re: CC: s to Non List Members (was Re: 202203080924.AYC Re: 202203071610.AYC Re: Making Use of 240/4 NetBlock) bzs (Mar 08)