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Re: What say you, nanog re: Starlink vs 5G?
From: Dave Taht <dave.taht () gmail com>
Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2022 10:23:29 -0700
On Fri, Jun 24, 2022 at 10:06 AM Chris Wright <chris.wright () commnetbroadband com> wrote:
The term "5G" among technical circles started vague, became better defined over the course of several years, and is becoming vague again. This nuance was never well understood in the public eye, nor by mass publications like CNN. This is a battle for 12GHz, not 5G.
I second that. I will try to use that last sentence if I have to get involved that fight. Elsewhere, though, I do wish that starlink would adopt an fq_codel derived algorithm on the dishy and headends to smooth out the wildly variable latencies some. https://www.phoronix.com/forums/forum/phoronix/latest-phoronix-articles/1330193-spacex-starlink-internet-experience-performance/page5
Chris -----Original Message----- From: NANOG <nanog-bounces+chris.wright=commnetbroadband.com () nanog org> On Behalf Of John Levine Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2022 9:45 PM To: nanog () nanog org Subject: Re: What say you, nanog re: Starlink vs 5G? It appears that Eric Kuhnke <eric.kuhnke () gmail com> said:Adding a terrestrial transmitter source mounted on towers and with CPEs that stomps on the same frequencies as the last 20 years of existing two way VSAT terminals throughout the US seems like a bad idea. Even if you ignore the existence of Starlink, there's a myriad of low bandwidth but critical SCADA systems out there and remote locations on ku-band two way geostationary terminals right now.I think the original thought was that the satellite service would be used in rural areas and 5G in cities so there'd be geographic separation, but Starlink is selling service all over the place.
-- FQ World Domination pending: https://blog.cerowrt.org/post/state_of_fq_codel/ Dave Täht CEO, TekLibre, LLC
Current thread:
- What say you, nanog re: Starlink vs 5G? Michael Thomas (Jun 23)
- Re: What say you, nanog re: Starlink vs 5G? William Herrin (Jun 23)
- Re: What say you, nanog re: Starlink vs 5G? Eric Kuhnke (Jun 23)
- Re: What say you, nanog re: Starlink vs 5G? John Levine (Jun 23)
- Re: What say you, nanog re: Starlink vs 5G? Nathan Stratton (Jun 24)
- RE: What say you, nanog re: Starlink vs 5G? Chris Wright (Jun 24)
- Re: What say you, nanog re: Starlink vs 5G? Dave Taht (Jun 24)
- Re: What say you, nanog re: Starlink vs 5G? William Herrin (Jun 24)
- Re: What say you, nanog re: Starlink vs 5G? Michael Thomas (Jun 24)
- Re: What say you, nanog re: Starlink vs 5G? Owen DeLong via NANOG (Jun 24)
- Re: What say you, nanog re: Starlink vs 5G? Joel Esler via NANOG (Jun 24)
- Re: What say you, nanog re: Starlink vs 5G? William Herrin (Jun 24)
- Re: What say you, nanog re: Starlink vs 5G? Michael Thomas (Jun 24)
- Re: What say you, nanog re: Starlink vs 5G? Owen DeLong via NANOG (Jun 24)
- Re: What say you, nanog re: Starlink vs 5G? Mike Hammett (Jun 24)
- Re: What say you, nanog re: Starlink vs 5G? Crist Clark (Jun 24)
- Re: What say you, nanog re: Starlink vs 5G? blakangel (Jun 25)
- Re: What say you, nanog re: Starlink vs 5G? Eric Kuhnke (Jun 23)
- Re: What say you, nanog re: Starlink vs 5G? William Herrin (Jun 23)