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Re: LEC copper removal from commercial properties
From: Martin Hannigan <hannigan () gmail com>
Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2022 10:55:28 -0500
On Wed, Feb 16, 2022 at 11:22 PM <hak () cooper edu> wrote:
I believe that should be 19-72A1. https://docs.fcc.gov/public/attachments/FCC-19-72A1.pdf Essentially, all services must be transitioned to fiber or wireless byAugust 2nd, 2022. I'm reading that document and that's not what it appears to say at all. This seems to be about discontinuing the artificial price restrictions of 2 and 4 wire dry pair loops that LECs resell to service providers, e.g. competitive DSL providers. I don't see anything in this order which would mandate that LECs discontinue their own DSL or POTS services. It would be especially ludicrous since in many parts of many markets, there is no alternative at this time. Shane
Here's the exact, troubling, language they use in the LEC letter for commercial properties: "If we do not here from you, or if you do not allow LEC access to your property to complete the fiber upgrade, all services provided to your tenants in your property over Verizon copper wires (voice and data service, as well as, alarm, elevator, and office lines) will be discontinued as part of the copper retirement plans that LEC expects to initiate in the near future. *This includes services provided through other providers using LEC's copper lines.* *After services are discontinued tenants with voice service provided over copper will lose dial tone, including the ability to dial 911."* Overall, it was poorly written and initially geared towards multi-tenant/residential, not a commercial office tower. They used the words "plan" and "expected". Warm regards, -M<
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- Re: LEC copper removal from commercial properties L F (Feb 16)
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- Re: LEC copper removal from commercial properties Martin Hannigan (Feb 16)
- Re: LEC copper removal from commercial properties L F (Feb 16)
- Re: LEC copper removal from commercial properties Paul Emmons (Feb 16)
- Re: LEC copper removal from commercial properties Lady Benjamin Cannon of Glencoe (Feb 16)
- Re: LEC copper removal from commercial properties Brandon Svec via NANOG (Feb 16)
- Re: LEC copper removal from commercial properties Brandon Svec via NANOG (Feb 16)
- Re: LEC copper removal from commercial properties sronan (Feb 16)
- Re: LEC copper removal from commercial properties hak (Feb 16)
- Re: LEC copper removal from commercial properties Fletcher Kittredge (Feb 17)
- Re: LEC copper removal from commercial properties Martin Hannigan (Feb 17)
- Re: LEC copper removal from commercial properties Brandon Svec via NANOG (Feb 16)
- Re: LEC copper removal from commercial properties Jay Hennigan (Feb 16)
- Re: LEC copper removal from commercial properties sronan (Feb 16)
- Re: LEC copper removal from commercial properties L F (Feb 16)
- Re: LEC copper removal from commercial properties Shrikumar.H (Feb 16)
- Re: LEC copper removal from commercial properties Anne P. Mitchell, Esq. (Feb 17)
- Re: LEC copper removal from commercial properties Anne P. Mitchell, Esq. (Feb 17)
- Re: LEC copper removal from commercial properties Christopher Morrow (Feb 17)
- Re: LEC copper removal from commercial properties Martin Hannigan (Feb 17)
- Re: LEC copper removal from commercial properties Anne P. Mitchell, Esq. (Feb 17)
- Re: LEC copper removal from commercial properties Tom Beecher (Feb 20)