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Re: New minimum speed for US broadband connections


From: Dave Taht <dave.taht () gmail com>
Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2022 16:57:02 -0800

There are plenty of places with crappy dsl left in the US, 7mbit
down/1mbit up being fairly common in many small towns.

In my view, however, focusing on dragging fiber to farmland is kind of
silly and better wireless tech (WISP) to be preferred,
and in both the wireless and dsl cases, a real source of problems is
actually... wait for it... the buffering.  I filed this in response to
NTIA's recent RFC on this topic.

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1FjRo9MNnVOLh733SNPNyqaR1IFee7Q5qbMrmW1PlPr8/edit

On Thu, Feb 10, 2022 at 12:58 PM Josh Luthman
<josh () imaginenetworksllc com> wrote:

There are plenty of urban and suburban areas in America that are far worse off from a broadband perspective than 
“rural America”.

Can you provide examples?

On Thu, Feb 10, 2022 at 3:51 PM Owen DeLong via NANOG <nanog () nanog org> wrote:



On Jun 2, 2021, at 02:10 , Mark Tinka <mark@tinka.africa> wrote:



On 6/2/21 11:04, Owen DeLong wrote:

I disagree… If it could be forced into a standardized format using a standardized approach to data acquisition 
and reliable comparable results across providers, it could be a very useful adjunct to real competition.

If we can't even agree on what "minimum speed for U.S. broadband connections" actually means, fat chance having a 
"nutritional facts" at the back of the "Internet in a tea cup" dropped off at your door step.

I'm not saying it's not useful, I'm just saying that easily goes down the "what color should we use for the bike 
shed" territory, while people in rural America still have no or poor Internet access.

Mark.

ROFLMAO…

People in Rural America seem to be doing just fine. Most of the ones I know at least have GPON or better.

Meanwhile, here in San Jose, a city that bills itself as “The Capital of Silicon Valley”, the best I can get is 
Comcast (which does finally purport to be Gig down), but rarely delivers that.

Yes, anything involving the federal government will get the full bike shed treatment no matter what we do.

There are plenty of urban and suburban areas in America that are far worse off from a broadband perspective than 
“rural America”.

Owen



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