Re: IPv6 woes - RFC

[Ryan Hamel <ryan () rkhtech org>]

Jeroen,

> You people keep on giving money to ISPs that are not providing the
service you want.

Not everyone has the luxury of picking their ISP, and the common consumer
doesn't know or care about IPv6. They want Netflix to work and that's it.

Ryan


On Sat, Sep 4, 2021, 1:47 PM Jeroen Massar via NANOG <nanog () nanog org>
wrote:

> > On 20210904, at 22:26, Grant Taylor via NANOG <nanog () nanog org> wrote:
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > Does anyone have any recommendation for a viable IPv6 tunnel broker /
> provider in the U.S.A. /other/ /than/ Hurricane Electric?
>
> SixXS shut down 4 years ago, to get ISPs to move their butts... as long as
> there are tunnels, they do not have a business case.
>
> See also https://www.sixxs.net/sunset/ and the "Call Your ISP for IPv6"
> thing in 2016: https://www.sixxs.net/wiki/Call_Your_ISP_for_IPv6 along
> with plans.
>
> You people keep on giving money to ISPs that are not providing the service
> you want.
>
> > I reluctantly just disabled IPv6 on my home network, provided by
> Hurricane Electric, because multiple services my wife uses are objecting to
> H.E.'s IPv6 address space as so called VPN or proxy provider. Netflix, HBO
> Max, Pandora, and other services that I can't remember at the moment have
> all objected to H.E
>
> Tunnels are VPNs
>
> So, that makes sense that services that need to 'protect their IP' (silly
> property) because they did not figure out people might live anywhere in the
> world might want to pay for things and receive service... [sic]
>
>
> IPv6 tunnels where meant as a transition mechanism, as a way for engineers
> to test IPv6 before it was wide spread.
>
> Deploying IPv6 is easy, and due to IPv4-squeeze (unless you have slave
> monopoly money and can just buy 2% of the address space), you could have
> spent the last 25 years getting ready for this day. And especially in the
> last 5 - 10 years, deploying IPv6 has been easy, due to all the work by
> many many many people around the world in testing and actively deploying
> IPv6. Of course there are still platforms that don't support DHCPv6 for
> instance, but things are easy, stable and often properly battle tested.
>
> > Disabling IPv6 feels *SO* *WRONG*!  But fighting things; hacking DNS,
> null routing prefixes, firewalling, etc., seems even more wrong.
> > Is there a contemporary option for home users like myself who's ISP
> doesn't offer native IPv6?
>
> As this is NANOG.... and people on the list are ISPs and it is 2021, thus
> IPv6 being 25+ years old, the best that is left to do is:
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ASXJgvy3mEg
>
> Go Jared!
>
> Greets,
>  Jeroen