Re: IPv6 woes - RFC

[Tim Howe <tim.h () bendtel com>]

Also, I realise I'm kinda taking your comment out of context and
jumping on it to harp on my favorite pet peeve, so, yeah, sorry about
that.

--TimH

On Sat, 18 Sep 2021 13:28:02 -0700
Tim Howe <tim.h () bendtel com> wrote:

> On Fri, 17 Sep 2021 21:15:00 -0700
> Owen DeLong via NANOG <nanog () nanog org> wrote:
>
> > Unless their infrastructure runs significantly on hardware and
> > software pre-2004 (unlikely), so does the cost of adding IPv6 to
> > their content servers. Especially if they’re using a CDN such as
> > Akamai.  
>
>       Owen, I have nothing but respect for you, but this is a
> fantasy...  I provide FTTx services to business and residential.  I had
> to fight, and grind, and test for over a year to get a mix of hardware
> and software that would provide anything resembling IPv6 equivalent
> services to most of our customers.  The only devices in my network that
> worked with few problems are my Adtran gpon/xgs-pon cards (try to find
> DHCPv6 option-18 support on anything else)... EVERYTHING else I used
> from my Juniper routers to customer CPE had to go through more rounds
> of testing and bug fixes than I could name - for years.
>
>       I've provided static v6 services to business customers for a
> long time (with no takers), but dynamic, scalable residential services
> was very hard.  There are still holes in our infrastructure because most
> vendors I am dealing with are doing very little to no v6 testing and
> still think I am a weirdo for asking for it.  Every ACS vendor is
> either just now working on it, or thinks they have it until I point out
> to them that they don't.  There have been some vendors that were good
> to work with: Juniper fixed the bugs I reported once I was able to
> prove to them it really was on there end (DHCPv6 relay server).  ZyXel
> has been good to work with; they care about and fix bugs that are
> reported.
>
>       There are also big vendors I won't work with any more because
> they do not have full v6 support for features I need, and they have no
> plans to have it.  I'm not a big enough customer for them to care about
> what I want.  I have devices with 2 year old software and zero v6
> support and none is coming ever; these are not no-name vendors; they
> are big.
>
>       People who think modern equipment is ready to provide native
> dual-stack services at scale to their customers are either using stuff
> very similar to mine, or are simply not doing it yet or have a lot of
> compromises.
>
> --TimH