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Re: S.Korea broadband firm sues Netflix after traffic surge
From: Matthew Petach <mpetach () netflight com>
Date: Tue, 12 Oct 2021 14:15:44 -0700
On Tue, Oct 12, 2021 at 2:01 PM Tom Beecher <beecher () beecher cc> wrote:
I think it would be absolutely *stunning* for content providersto turn the model on its head; use a bittorrent like model for caching and serving content out of subscribers homes at recalcitrant ISPs, so that data doesn't come from outside, it comes out of the mesh within the eyeball network, with no clear place for the ISP to stick a $$$ bill to.I'm familiar with some work and ideas that have gone into such a thing, and I'm personally very much against it for non-technical reasons. Given how far the law lags behind technology, the last thing anyone should be ok with is a 3rd party storing bits on ANYTHING in their house, or transmitting those bits from a network connection that is registered to them.
*chortle* So, I take it you steadfastly block *all* cookies from being stored or transmitted from your browser at home? Oh, wait. You meant it's OK to let some third parties store and transmit bits from your devices, but only the ones you like and support, and as long as they're small bits, and you're sure there's nothing harmful or illegal in them. So, that means you check each cookie to make sure there's nothing in them that could be illegal? You sure someone hasn't tucked something like the DeCSS algorithm, or the RSA algorithm into a cookie in your browser, like this? https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Munitions_T-shirt_(front).jpg https://www.cafepress.com/+,954530397?utm_medium=cpc&utm_source=pla-google&utm_campaign=7979505756-d-c&utm_content=83814261273-adid-395151690662&utm_term=pla-1396845372217-pid-954530397&gclid=Cj0KCQjw5JSLBhCxARIsAHgO2SeM10JbFgeus96hEedn0d0m2Kkz6Z91-frlEIUh-3ZD2w89j8EUmCsaAvnAEALw_wcB The fact of the matter is, every one of us allows third parties to store data on all our devices, all the time, and send it back out on the network, completely unsupervised by us, even though it could contain data which is illegal to cross certain arbitrary political boundaries. I understand where you're coming from, I really do. But I don't think people stop and think about just how completely that ship has sailed, from a legal standpoint. You could have been asked by a random website to store code which is illegal to export in a cookie which is then offered back up to any other website in whatever jurisdiction around the globe that asks for it, and you'll be completely unaware of it, because we've all gotten past the point of "ask me about every cookie" being a workable setting on any of our devices. Go ahead. Turn off all cookie support on all your devices for 24 hours. Don't let any of that third party data in or out of your home during that time. Let me know how well that turns out. Bonus points if you enforce it on your family/spouse/SO/partner at the same time, and they're still talking to you at the end of the 24 hours. ;-P Matt
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- Re: S.Korea broadband firm sues Netflix after traffic surge Matthew Walster (Oct 11)
- Re: S.Korea broadband firm sues Netflix after traffic surge Owen DeLong via NANOG (Oct 11)
- Re: S.Korea broadband firm sues Netflix after traffic surge Jason Iannone (Oct 12)
- Re: S.Korea broadband firm sues Netflix after traffic surge Mark Tinka (Oct 12)
- Re: S.Korea broadband firm sues Netflix after traffic surge Matthew Walster (Oct 12)
- Re: S.Korea broadband firm sues Netflix after traffic surge Mark Tinka (Oct 12)
- Re: S.Korea broadband firm sues Netflix after traffic surge Owen DeLong via NANOG (Oct 12)
- Re: S.Korea broadband firm sues Netflix after traffic surge Owen DeLong via NANOG (Oct 11)
- Re: S.Korea broadband firm sues Netflix after traffic surge Mark Tinka (Oct 12)
- Re: S.Korea broadband firm sues Netflix after traffic surge Tom Beecher (Oct 12)
- Re: S.Korea broadband firm sues Netflix after traffic surge Matthew Petach (Oct 12)
- Re: S.Korea broadband firm sues Netflix after traffic surge scott (Oct 12)
- Re: S.Korea broadband firm sues Netflix after traffic surge Doug Barton (Oct 12)
- Re: S.Korea broadband firm sues Netflix after traffic surge scott (Oct 12)
- Re: S.Korea broadband firm sues Netflix after traffic surge Tom Beecher (Oct 13)
- Re: S.Korea broadband firm sues Netflix after traffic surge Sabri Berisha (Oct 12)
- Re: S.Korea broadband firm sues Netflix after traffic surge Mark Tinka (Oct 12)
- Re: S.Korea broadband firm sues Netflix after traffic surge Niels Bakker (Oct 10)
- Re: S.Korea broadband firm sues Netflix after traffic surge Mark Tinka (Oct 11)
- Re: S.Korea broadband firm sues Netflix after traffic surge Mark Tinka (Oct 11)
- Re: S.Korea broadband firm sues Netflix after traffic surge Owen DeLong via NANOG (Oct 11)