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Re: New minimum speed for US broadband connections
From: Mike Hammett <nanog () ics-il net>
Date: Fri, 28 May 2021 21:38:57 -0500 (CDT)
Far from a major company, but I run two ISPs, one fixed wireless and one DSL\fiber. This is my "home" connection. (See attached). Max In: 4.55Mb; Average In: 421.44Kb; Current In: 333.26Kb; Max Out: 11.16Mb; Average Out: 2.04Mb; Current Out: 1.53Mb; That's a monthly graph of an interface facing the home, so In is upload and Out is download. That's four homes, six adults (five of them under 40), four children, two of which have been e-learning from home most of the year. One of the adults is me, definitely not a normal user. There is a Ring camera in one of the houses. There are a bunch of other cameras, but they're on another VLAN that goes to a local NAS. People vastly overestimate how much Internet they think they (and others) need. ----- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com Midwest-IX http://www.midwest-ix.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sean Donelan" <sean () donelan com> To: "NANOG Operators' Group" <nanog () nanog org> Sent: Friday, May 28, 2021 9:00:13 PM Subject: Re: New minimum speed for US broadband connections On Fri, 28 May 2021, Mike Lyon wrote:
since it appears we are arbitrarily pulling random numbers out of our asses for "minimums?"
I would love to see an experiment where the CEOs of the major communication companies were forced to use only their "lifeline" products for 30 days, including only their "lifeline" customer service lines. Based on the CEOs experience, then we might have some data whether those products are viable for modern households, work-from-home, home-school, streaming. One of the problems with the product definitions: the "minimum" is treated as the "maximum" (up to speed). The actual bandwidth delivered is often much less than the advertised "up to" numbers. E.g. advertised 25 mbps /3 mbps => actual 7 mbps/768 kbps with data caps
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- Re: New minimum speed for US broadband connections, (continued)
- Re: New minimum speed for US broadband connections Ask Bjørn Hansen (May 28)
- RE: New minimum speed for US broadband connections Brandon Price (May 28)
- Re: New minimum speed for US broadband connections Lady Benjamin Cannon of Glencoe, ASCE (May 28)
- Re: New minimum speed for US broadband connections Mike Hammett (May 28)
- Re: New minimum speed for US broadband connections Cory Sell via NANOG (May 28)
- Re: New minimum speed for US broadband connections Mike Hammett (May 28)
- Re: New minimum speed for US broadband connections Mark Tinka (May 30)
- Re: New minimum speed for US broadband connections Baldur Norddahl (May 31)
- Re: New minimum speed for US broadband connections Mark Tinka (May 31)
- Re: New minimum speed for US broadband connections Sean Donelan (May 28)
- Re: New minimum speed for US broadband connections Mike Hammett (May 28)
- Re: New minimum speed for US broadband connections Lady Benjamin Cannon of Glencoe, ASCE (May 29)
- Re: New minimum speed for US broadband connections Mike Lyon (May 29)
- Re: New minimum speed for US broadband connections Lady Benjamin Cannon of Glencoe, ASCE (May 29)
- Re: New minimum speed for US broadband connections Mike Hammett (May 29)
- Re: New minimum speed for US broadband connections Mike Hammett (May 30)
- Re: New minimum speed for US broadband connections Bryan Fields (May 30)
- Re: New minimum speed for US broadband connections Mike Hammett (May 29)
- Re: New minimum speed for US broadband connections Ethan O'Toole (May 29)
- Re: New minimum speed for US broadband connections Mike Hammett (May 28)
- Re: New minimum speed for US broadband connections Dan Stralka (May 28)