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Re: SITR/SHAKEN implementation in effect today (June 30 2021)
From: Michael Thomas <mike () mtcc com>
Date: Fri, 9 Jul 2021 13:47:36 -0700
On 7/9/21 1:36 PM, K. Scott Helms wrote:
Nothing will change immediately. Having said that, I do expect that we will see much more effective enforcement. The investigations will come from the ITG (Industry Traceback Group) with enforcement coming from FCC or FTC depending on the actual offense. The problem has been that it's been far too easy for robocalling companies to hop from one telecom provider to another. Now there are requirements around "know your customer" that telecom operators have to follow and the ITG will have a much better chance of figuring out who the bad actor is than they have in the past.
The thing is that that shouldn't have been held up by rolling out STIR. With email, there was nothing akin to the FCC so it was really the only name-and-shame stick we had. This could have been done years ago.
A meta question that really needs to be asked these days is why we even need telco telephony anymore. A lot of problems go away if you are not in thrall to 100 year old technology and its accreted kruft.Longer term I worry that this will lead to more attacks on PBXs, eSBCs, and VOIP handsets to be able to call either from that endpoint itself or be able to use the SIP credentials. The market for robocalls will certainly not disappear.
Mike
Current thread:
- Re: SITR/SHAKEN implementation in effect today (June 30 2021), (continued)
- Re: SITR/SHAKEN implementation in effect today (June 30 2021) Nick Olsen (Jul 02)
- Re: SITR/SHAKEN implementation in effect today (June 30 2021) Paul Timmins (Jul 02)
- Re: SITR/SHAKEN implementation in effect today (June 30 2021) Michael Thomas (Jul 02)
- Re: SITR/SHAKEN implementation in effect today (June 30 2021) Nick Olsen (Jul 02)
- RE: SITR/SHAKEN implementation in effect today (June 30 2021) Ryan Finnesey via NANOG (Jul 09)
- Re: SITR/SHAKEN implementation in effect today (June 30 2021) Jeff Shultz (Jul 09)
- Re: SITR/SHAKEN implementation in effect today (June 30 2021) Josh Luthman (Jul 09)
- Re: SITR/SHAKEN implementation in effect today (June 30 2021) Brandon Svec via NANOG (Jul 09)
- Re: SITR/SHAKEN implementation in effect today (June 30 2021) Michael Thomas (Jul 09)
- Re: SITR/SHAKEN implementation in effect today (June 30 2021) goemon--- via NANOG (Jul 09)
- Re: SITR/SHAKEN implementation in effect today (June 30 2021) K. Scott Helms (Jul 09)
- Re: SITR/SHAKEN implementation in effect today (June 30 2021) Michael Thomas (Jul 09)
- Re: SITR/SHAKEN implementation in effect today (June 30 2021) K. Scott Helms (Jul 09)
- RE: SITR/SHAKEN implementation in effect today (June 30 2021) Keith Medcalf (Jul 09)
- Re: SITR/SHAKEN implementation in effect today (June 30 2021) Michael Thomas (Jul 09)
- RE: SITR/SHAKEN implementation in effect today (June 30 2021) bzs (Jul 10)
- Re: SITR/SHAKEN implementation in effect today (June 30 2021) Michael Thomas (Jul 11)
- Re: SITR/SHAKEN implementation in effect today (June 30 2021) Jeff Shultz (Jul 09)
- Re: SITR/SHAKEN implementation in effect today (June 30 2021) Michael Thomas (Jul 09)
- Re: SITR/SHAKEN implementation in effect today (June 30 2021) goemon--- via NANOG (Jul 09)