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Re: SITR/SHAKEN implementation in effect today (June 30 2021)
From: "K. Scott Helms" <kscott.helms () gmail com>
Date: Fri, 9 Jul 2021 16:36:12 -0400
Nothing will change immediately. Having said that, I do expect that we will see much more effective enforcement. The investigations will come from the ITG (Industry Traceback Group) with enforcement coming from FCC or FTC depending on the actual offense. The problem has been that it's been far too easy for robocalling companies to hop from one telecom provider to another. Now there are requirements around "know your customer" that telecom operators have to follow and the ITG will have a much better chance of figuring out who the bad actor is than they have in the past. Longer term I worry that this will lead to more attacks on PBXs, eSBCs, and VOIP handsets to be able to call either from that endpoint itself or be able to use the SIP credentials. The market for robocalls will certainly not disappear. Scott Helms On Fri, Jul 9, 2021 at 1:07 PM Michael Thomas <mike () mtcc com> wrote:
Nothing has changed for me either. Color me surprised. The real proof will be to see if the originating domain can be determined, and whether the receiving domain does anything about it. Mike On 7/9/21 9:42 AM, Brandon Svec via NANOG wrote: I’m getting the same or more, but did anyone really expect they would stop July 1? It will take time for complaints to be tracked down and operators to take actions, right? Brandon On Fri, Jul 9, 2021 at 6:49 AM Josh Luthman <josh () imaginenetworksllc com> wrote:Subjectively speaking, I'm still getting the same amount of spam phone calls. I'm certainly getting a lot more spam SMS to my cell. Almost all of them in my entire life starting July 1... Josh Luthman 24/7 Help Desk: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St <https://www.google.com/maps/search/1100+Wayne+St+Suite+1337+Troy,+OH+45373?entry=gmail&source=g> Suite 1337 <https://www.google.com/maps/search/1100+Wayne+St+Suite+1337+Troy,+OH+45373?entry=gmail&source=g> Troy, OH 45373 <https://www.google.com/maps/search/1100+Wayne+St+Suite+1337+Troy,+OH+45373?entry=gmail&source=g> On Fri, Jul 9, 2021 at 9:40 AM Jeff Shultz <jeffshultz () sctcweb com> wrote:All I know is that I am getting a lot fewer bogus calls on my cell phone than I was this time last month. On Fri, Jul 9, 2021, 06:17 Ryan Finnesey via NANOG <nanog () nanog org> wrote:This should help with Robo calls a lot. -----Original Message----- From: NANOG <nanog-bounces+ryan.finnesey=conovence.com () nanog org> On Behalf Of Sean Donelan Sent: Wednesday, June 30, 2021 2:31 PM To: nanog () nanog org Subject: SITR/SHAKEN implementation in effect today (June 30 2021) STIR/SHAKEN Broadly Implemented Starting Today https://www.fcc.gov/document/stirshaken-broadly-implemented-starting-today WASHINGTON, June 30, 2021—FCC Acting Chairwoman Jessica Rosenworcel today announced that the largest voice service providers are now using STIR/SHAKEN caller ID authentication standards in their IP networks, in accordance with the deadline set by the FCC. This widespread implementation helps protect consumers against malicious spoofed robocalls and helps law enforcement track bad actors. The STIR/SHAKEN standards serve as a common digital language used by phone networks, allowing valid information to pass from provider to provider which, among other things, informs blocking tools of possible suspicious calls.--Brandon Svec 15106862204 ☎️ or 💬
Current thread:
- Re: SITR/SHAKEN implementation in effect today (June 30 2021), (continued)
- Re: SITR/SHAKEN implementation in effect today (June 30 2021) Andreas Ott (Jul 01)
- Re: SITR/SHAKEN implementation in effect today (June 30 2021) Nick Olsen (Jul 02)
- Re: SITR/SHAKEN implementation in effect today (June 30 2021) Paul Timmins (Jul 02)
- Re: SITR/SHAKEN implementation in effect today (June 30 2021) Michael Thomas (Jul 02)
- Re: SITR/SHAKEN implementation in effect today (June 30 2021) Nick Olsen (Jul 02)
- Re: SITR/SHAKEN implementation in effect today (June 30 2021) Andreas Ott (Jul 01)
- RE: SITR/SHAKEN implementation in effect today (June 30 2021) Ryan Finnesey via NANOG (Jul 09)
- Re: SITR/SHAKEN implementation in effect today (June 30 2021) Jeff Shultz (Jul 09)
- Re: SITR/SHAKEN implementation in effect today (June 30 2021) Josh Luthman (Jul 09)
- Re: SITR/SHAKEN implementation in effect today (June 30 2021) Brandon Svec via NANOG (Jul 09)
- Re: SITR/SHAKEN implementation in effect today (June 30 2021) Michael Thomas (Jul 09)
- Re: SITR/SHAKEN implementation in effect today (June 30 2021) goemon--- via NANOG (Jul 09)
- Re: SITR/SHAKEN implementation in effect today (June 30 2021) K. Scott Helms (Jul 09)
- Re: SITR/SHAKEN implementation in effect today (June 30 2021) Michael Thomas (Jul 09)
- Re: SITR/SHAKEN implementation in effect today (June 30 2021) K. Scott Helms (Jul 09)
- RE: SITR/SHAKEN implementation in effect today (June 30 2021) Keith Medcalf (Jul 09)
- Re: SITR/SHAKEN implementation in effect today (June 30 2021) Michael Thomas (Jul 09)
- RE: SITR/SHAKEN implementation in effect today (June 30 2021) bzs (Jul 10)
- Re: SITR/SHAKEN implementation in effect today (June 30 2021) Michael Thomas (Jul 11)
- Re: SITR/SHAKEN implementation in effect today (June 30 2021) Jeff Shultz (Jul 09)
- Re: SITR/SHAKEN implementation in effect today (June 30 2021) Michael Thomas (Jul 09)
- Re: SITR/SHAKEN implementation in effect today (June 30 2021) goemon--- via NANOG (Jul 09)