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Re: Parler


From: "K. Scott Helms" <kscott.helms () gmail com>
Date: Sun, 10 Jan 2021 17:32:11 -0500

This is a list for pushing bits.  The fact that many/most of us have other
businesses doesn't make this an appropriate forum for SIP issues (to use my
own work as an example).

On Sun, Jan 10, 2021, 4:52 PM <sronan () ronan-online com> wrote:

This is a list for Network Operators, AWS certainly operates networks.

Sent from my iPhone

On Jan 10, 2021, at 4:27 PM, K. Scott Helms <kscott.helms () gmail com>
wrote:


No,

It really does not.  Section 230 only applies to publishers, and not to
network providers.  If this were a cloud hosting provider list then you'd
be correct, but as a network provider's list it does not belong here.


Scott Helms



On Sun, Jan 10, 2021 at 3:21 PM Lady Benjamin PD Cannon <ben () 6by7 net>
wrote:

As network operations and compute/cloud/hosting operations continue to
coalesce, I very much disagree with you.  Section 230 is absolutely
relevant, this discussion is timely and relevant, and it directly affects
me as both a telecom and cloud compute/services provider.


—L.B.

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6x7 Networks & 6x7 Telecom, LLC
CEO
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On Jan 10, 2021, at 12:13 PM, K. Scott Helms <kscott.helms () gmail com>
wrote:

It's not, and frankly it's disappointing to see people pushing an agenda
here.


Scott Helms


On Sun, Jan 10, 2021 at 9:37 AM <sronan () ronan-online com> wrote:


NANOG is a group of Operators, discussion does not have to be about
networking. I have already explained how this represents a significant
issue for Network Operators.

On Jan 10, 2021, at 9:09 AM, Mike Bolitho <mikebolitho () gmail com> wrote:


It has nothing to do with networking. Their decision was necessarily
political. If you can specifically bring up an issue, beyond speculative,
on how their new chosen CDN is somehow now causing congestion or routing
issues on the public internet, then great. But as of now, that isn't even a
thing. It's just best to leave it alone because it will devolve into chaos.

- Mike Bolitho

On Sun, Jan 10, 2021, 6:54 AM <sronan () ronan-online com> wrote:


Why? This is extremely relevant to network operators and is not political
at all.

On Jan 10, 2021, at 8:51 AM, Mike Bolitho <mikebolitho () gmail com> wrote:


Can we please not go down this rabbit hole on here? List admins?

- Mike Bolitho

On Sun, Jan 10, 2021, 1:26 AM William Herrin <bill () herrin us> wrote:


Anybody looking for a new customer opportunity? It seems Parler is in
search of a new service provider. Vendors need only provide all the
proprietary AWS APIs that Parler depends upon to function.


https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2021/01/09/amazon-parler-suspension/

Regards,
Bill HErrin




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