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Re: Texas internet connectivity declining due to blackouts


From: Sean Donelan <sean () donelan com>
Date: Wed, 17 Feb 2021 13:36:10 -0500 (EST)


As I mentioned I used residential pricing because its easier to find. Getting industrial pricing is more difficult because its often viewed as proprietary secret information with particular customers. Its more difficult to get industrial pricing across all countries (and states in the USA). Then people would say that industrial pricing isn't comparable because it includes discounts, such as load shedding during peak usage.

So I used residential pricing. But I would love if you could produce a report on industrial electric pricing around the world, for free of course.

Germany is recouping the cost of undergrounding HV transmission lines (and other political choices) through those surcharges, i.e. there ain't no such thing as a free lunch.

The problems with the Texas eletric grid is really a market arbitrage failure. The decision makers like to blame it on "unforseeable events."
Just ask the Harvard professor which created it.

Storm damage doesn't stop at state borders.


On Wed, 17 Feb 2021, Rod Beck wrote:
Using residential pricing for a data center is a bit odd, isn't? Remember,
European businesses can reclaim VAT and a European data center would access
much lower tariffs than a European household. And residential pricing
includes VAT. Germany is an outlier because about 50% of the 30 cents is
taxes and surcharges.


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