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Re: Texas internet connectivity declining due to blackouts
From: John Von Essen <john () essenz com>
Date: Tue, 16 Feb 2021 11:50:47 -0500
I just assumed most people in Texas have heat pumps- AC in the summer and minimal heating in the winter when needed. When the entire state gets a deep freeze, everybody is running those heat pumps non-stop, and the generation capacity simply wasn’t there. i.e. coal or natural gas plants have some turbines offline, etc.,. in the winter because historically power use is much much less. The odd thing is its been days now, those plants should be able to ramp back up to capacity - but clearly they haven’t. Blaming this on wind turbines is BS. In fact, if it weren’t for so many people in Texas with grid-tie solar systems, the situation would be even worse. And of course, the real issue is Texas’ closed grid - any other state could pull in more power from neighbors. -John
On Feb 15, 2021, at 11:34 PM, Cory Sell via NANOG <nanog () nanog org> wrote: Ercot has already released actual documentation of the outputs. Wind is NOT the biggest loss here. Even if wind was operating at 100% capacity, we’d be in the same boat due to gas and fossil fuel-related generation being decimated. Estimated 4GW lost for wind doesn’t make up for the 30GW+ estimated being lost from fossil fuels. I only interject because people are already pointing their fingers at renewables being the cause here and trying to pawn off the blame to wind/solar to further their agendas to reduce renewable energy R&D and adoption. Sure, wind isn’t perfect, but looks like solution relied on failed in a massive way. Sent from ProtonMail Mobile On Mon, Feb 15, 2021 at 10:17 PM, Robert Jacobs <rjacobs () pslightwave com <mailto:rjacobs () pslightwave com>> wrote:How about letting us Texans have more natural gas power plants or even let the gas be delivered to the plants we have so they can provide more power in an emergency. Did not help that 20% of our power is now wind which of course in an ice storm like we are having is shut off... Lots of issues and plenty of politics involved here.. Robert Jacobs | Data Center Manager <http://www.pslightwave.com/> Direct: 832-615-7742 <tel:832-615-7742> Mobile: 281-830-2092 <tel:281-830-2092> Main: 832‑615‑8000 Fax: 713-510-1650 <> 5959 Corporate Dr. Suite 3300; Houston, TX 77036 <https://www.facebook.com/pslightwave/> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/pslightwave> <https://twitter.com/PSLightwave> <http://www.pslightwave.com/> A Certified Woman‑Owned Business 24x7x365 Customer Support: 832-615-8000 | support () pslightwave com This electronic message contains information from PS Lightwave which may be privileged and confidential. The information is intended to be for the use of individual(s) or entity named above. If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution or use of the contents of this information is prohibited. If you have received this electronic message in error, please notify me by telephone or e-mail immediately. -----Original Message----- From: NANOG <nanog-bounces+rjacobs=pslightwave.com () nanog org> On Behalf Of Mark Tinka Sent: Monday, February 15, 2021 10:06 PM To: nanog () nanog org Subject: Re: Texas internet connectivity declining due to blackouts On 2/16/21 04:14, Sean Donelan wrote:Poweroutage.us posted a terrific map, showing the jurisdictional borders of the Texas power outages versus the storm related power outages elsewhere in the country. https://twitter.com/PowerOutage_us/status/1361493394070118402 Sometimes infrastructure planning failures are not due to "natural hazards."I suppose having some kind of home backup solution wouldn't be too bad right now, even though you may still not get access to services. But at least, you can brew some coffee, and charge your pulse oximetre. Mark.
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- Re: Texas internet connectivity declining due to blackouts Rich Kulawiec (Feb 23)
- Re: Texas internet connectivity declining due to blackouts Mel Beckman (Feb 22)
- Re: Texas internet connectivity declining due to blackouts Brandon Svec via NANOG (Feb 22)
- Re: Texas internet connectivity declining due to blackouts Mike Hammett (Feb 22)
- Re: Texas internet connectivity declining due to blackouts Ben Cannon (Feb 22)
- Re: Texas internet connectivity declining due to blackouts Stephen Satchell (Feb 22)
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- Re: Texas internet connectivity declining due to blackouts Carsten Bormann (Feb 16)
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- Re: Texas internet connectivity declining due to blackouts John Von Essen (Feb 16)
- Re: Texas internet connectivity declining due to blackouts Brandon Svec (Feb 16)
- Re: Texas internet connectivity declining due to blackouts Miles Fidelman (Feb 16)
- Re: Texas internet connectivity declining due to blackouts Mark Tinka (Feb 17)
- Re: Texas internet connectivity declining due to blackouts Michael Thomas (Feb 16)
- Re: Texas internet connectivity declining due to blackouts Chris Boyd (Feb 16)
- Re: Texas internet connectivity declining due to blackouts Seth Mattinen (Feb 16)
- Re: Texas internet connectivity declining due to blackouts Haudy Kazemi via NANOG (Feb 16)
- Re: Texas internet connectivity declining due to blackouts Kevin East (Feb 16)
- Re: Texas internet connectivity declining due to blackouts Mark Tinka (Feb 17)
- Re: Texas internet connectivity declining due to blackouts Mark Tinka (Feb 15)