Re: Reminder: Never connect a generator to home wiring without transfer switch

["Forrest Christian (List Account)" <lists () packetflux com>]

I just wish the electrical code would permit or require certain low cost
things which make temporary generator connections more likely to be safe.

For example, code requires most furnaces to be hardwired.  But a furnace is
one of the first things you want on a generator in an extended winter power
outage.   If instead of hardwired, the code required plug and socket
connections at each 120v furnace  then Joe homeowner would be more likely
to run an extension cord from his generator to his furnace instead of
trying to rig up his generator with a suicide cord.

On Mon, Aug 30, 2021, 11:38 PM John van Oppen <john () vanoppen com> wrote:

> I told my wife that she is my critical load as such I like to treat our
> place like a datacenter.   House wide UPS for all lights and all bedroom
> and office outlets, large generator system, ATS and lots of fuel.   Last
> time I was at a nanog and the power went out she chuckled when I told her
> it was out, she had just come home from work and driven right into the
> garage with all the lights on thinking the utility was still working.
>
> I did all my commissioning and calculations myself, even coordinated
> breakers for both sources into the sub panels, but I'm far from a home DIY
> when it comes to electrical.   My home 277/480v service is pretty cute
> compared to the stuff I normally play with and design.
>
> I've cabled my other portables into panels at people's houses before but I
> refuse to talk them through how to do it, if you don't know how to properly
> pull the utility breakers etc you have no business temping anything up, and
> making cables that make it easy is irresponsible safety wise.
>
> Power is serious business and mistakes can be very dangerous.
>
> The last few days has me feeling for all the folks keeping the hospitals
> and critical facilities running in Louisiana, seems like most made it
> through pretty well, huge testament to planning and the reliability of
> backup systems.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: NANOG <nanog-bounces+john=vanoppen.com () nanog org> On Behalf Of Mark
> Tinka
> Sent: Wednesday, August 25, 2021 8:12 AM
> To: Jared Mauch <jared () puck nether net>
> Cc: nanog () nanog org
> Subject: Re: Reminder: Never connect a generator to home wiring without
> transfer switch
>
>
>
> On 8/25/21 16:59, Jared Mauch wrote:
>
> > This is why I personally spent the $$ on a proper standby generator with
> multiple ATS for the multiple panels.
>
> Same here.
>
> Massively painful, which led to some boring moments testing, testing and
> more testing. But after 5 months with electricians, electrical certifiers,
> battery vendors and inverter vendors (and a little voltage/amp sensor to
> capture slow voltage grid brownouts that kept tripping my battery), it's
> been solid for nearly a year. And looking good.
>
> I can now travel and not worry about the Mrs. waking me up from my sleep,
> on the far side of the world :-).
>
> Mark.