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Re: BGP route hijack by AS10990
From: Mark Tinka <mark.tinka () seacom com>
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2020 16:43:49 +0200
On 31/Jul/20 16:29, Mike Hammett wrote:
They solve a need that isn't reasonably solved any other way that doesn't have similar drawbacks. Some optimizers need to be redesigned to be safer by default. Some networks need to be safer by default as well.
Almost every product ever made does solve a need. You will find at least one customer who is happy with what they paid their money for. But BGP-4 is vulnerable enough as it is, and the Internet has moved on in leaps and bounds since 1994 (RFC 1654). Until we see BGP-5, we need to look after our community. And if that means holding the BGP optimizers to a higher standard, so be it. As they say, "You can't blame a monkey for botching a brain surgery". Plenty of industries strongly "guide" (I'll avoid "regulate") their actors to ensure standards and results (medicine, aviation, energy, construction, e.t.c.). If the acceptance bar to a BGP actor is an optional CCNA or JNCIA certification, we shall learn the hard way, as we did with this and similar incidents. Mark.
Current thread:
- Re: BGP route hijack by AS10990, (continued)
- Re: BGP route hijack by AS10990 Yang Yu (Jul 30)
- Re: BGP route hijack by AS10990 Owen DeLong (Jul 30)
- Re: BGP route hijack by AS10990 Hank Nussbacher (Jul 30)
- Re: BGP route hijack by AS10990 Stephane Bortzmeyer (Jul 30)
- Re: BGP route hijack by AS10990 Töma Gavrichenkov (Jul 30)
- Re: BGP route hijack by AS10990 Patrick Schultz (Jul 30)
- Re: BGP route hijack by AS10990 Sadiq Saif (Jul 30)
- Re: BGP route hijack by AS10990 Tom Beecher (Jul 30)
- Re: BGP route hijack by AS10990 Mark Tinka (Jul 31)
- Re: BGP route hijack by AS10990 Mike Hammett (Jul 31)
- Re: BGP route hijack by AS10990 Mark Tinka (Jul 31)
- Re: BGP route hijack by AS10990 Lukas Tribus (Jul 31)
- Re: BGP route hijack by AS10990 Sabri Berisha (Jul 31)
- Re: BGP route hijack by AS10990 Mark Tinka (Jul 31)
- Re: BGP route hijack by AS10990 Sabri Berisha (Jul 31)
- Re: BGP route hijack by AS10990 Patrick Schultz (Jul 30)
- Re: BGP route hijack by AS10990 Hank Nussbacher (Jul 31)
- Re: BGP route hijack by AS10990 Nick Hilliard (Jul 31)
- Re: BGP route hijack by AS10990 Baldur Norddahl (Jul 31)
- Re: BGP route hijack by AS10990 Mark Tinka (Jul 31)
- Re: BGP route hijack by AS10990 Töma Gavrichenkov (Jul 30)
- Re: BGP route hijack by AS10990 Job Snijders (Jul 30)