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Re: akamai yesterday - what in the world was that
From: Warren Kumari <warren () kumari net>
Date: Thu, 23 Jan 2020 13:25:19 -0500
On Thu, Jan 23, 2020 at 12:45 PM Hugo Slabbert <hugo () slabnet com> wrote:
This just follows the same rules as networks have always seemed to; If you build it, they will come, and you'll have to build more. :)https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Induced_demand
Yup, there is also (in networking at least) suppressed demand -- I'm sure we've all seen capacity planning discussions along the lines of: "My 1GE is running at 95% capacity - I'm replacing it with a 10GE and it will be around 10% used... wait?! What?! It's now at 7Gbps?! How the hell did that happen?!" scenarios. They usedto be funny, but these days I just find it depressing... W
:-) On Thu., Jan. 23, 2020, 09:40 Tom Beecher <beecher () beecher cc> wrote:I think this is a tribute to how we’ve built and upgraded networks for capacity and speed.I think it's spot on. In years past it made more sense to distribute smaller , incremental patches. More work on the software side, but it was likely a better option than getting blasted on Twitter because "OMG I WANT TO PLAY AND MY DOWNLOAD IS TAKING 8 HOURS". This just follows the same rules as networks have always seemed to; If you build it, they will come, and you'll have to build more. :) On Thu, Jan 23, 2020 at 11:57 AM Jared Mauch <jared () puck nether net> wrote:On Jan 23, 2020, at 11:52 AM, Valdis Klētnieks <valdis.kletnieks () vt edu> wrote: On Thu, 23 Jan 2020 17:13:15 +0100, Bryan Holloway said:Game releases are hardly a new thing, but these last two events seem to be almost an order of magnitude higher than what we're used to (at least on our predominantly eyeball network.) Any thoughts from the community? We're taking steps to accommodate, but from a capacity-planning perspective, this seems non-linear to me.Be prepared for an entire new world of hurt this holiday season. Sony has already confirmed that PS5 releases will ship on 100Gbyte blu-ray disks. Which means that download sizes will be comparable…There’s also the “we will stream you all the data things” I keep hearing about like the Consoles without discs or some other thing I can’t remember the name of. I think this is a tribute to how we’ve built and upgraded networks for capacity and speed. - Jared
-- I don't think the execution is relevant when it was obviously a bad idea in the first place. This is like putting rabid weasels in your pants, and later expressing regret at having chosen those particular rabid weasels and that pair of pants. ---maf
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- Re: akamai yesterday - what in the world was that james jones (Jan 23)
- Re: akamai yesterday - what in the world was that Brandon Martin (Jan 23)
- Re: akamai yesterday - what in the world was that Mike Hammett (Jan 23)
- Re: akamai yesterday - what in the world was that Jared Mauch (Jan 23)
- Re: akamai yesterday - what in the world was that Valdis Klētnieks (Jan 23)
- Re: akamai yesterday - what in the world was that Jared Mauch (Jan 23)
- Re: akamai yesterday - what in the world was that Tom Beecher (Jan 23)
- RE: akamai yesterday - what in the world was that jdambrosia (Jan 23)
- RE: akamai yesterday - what in the world was that Aaron Gould (Jan 24)
- Re: akamai yesterday - what in the world was that Hugo Slabbert (Jan 23)
- Re: akamai yesterday - what in the world was that Warren Kumari (Jan 23)
- Re: akamai yesterday - what in the world was that Jared Mauch (Jan 23)
- Re: akamai yesterday - what in the world was that Paul Nash (Jan 23)
- Re: akamai yesterday - what in the world was that bzs (Jan 23)
- Re: akamai yesterday - what in the world was that Simon Leinen (Jan 24)
- Re: akamai yesterday - what in the world was that Töma Gavrichenkov (Jan 24)
- Re: akamai yesterday - what in the world was that Niels Bakker (Jan 24)
- RE: akamai yesterday - what in the world was that Aaron Gould (Jan 24)
- Re: akamai yesterday - what in the world was that Warren Kumari (Jan 24)
- RE: akamai yesterday - what in the world was that Aaron Gould (Jan 24)
- Re: akamai yesterday - what in the world was that Paul Nash (Jan 25)